Is ATC SCM 19 speakers an all-rounder?
they can even be pretty too, i recently saw pictures of some that the owner had rubbed with t-cut(!) and car-polish(!!), and the results were very suprising!
they did look great! sorry for the hijack, but i can anyone link it. i can find it in search
Matt
I would suggest (can't fully qualify) that ATCs may just be a bridge too far for the Leema. They are devilish to drive and you'll need a real gutsy amp to make the most of them, more so if you like your music loud and proud.
Odd as it may seem, I have considered SCM19s in the past as they should suit my room. However, the drawbacks are: If you have a TT with low MV cart the Leema may puff and blow a bit at high levels. Not so with a CDP and FM tuner, but TTs and DVD players can demand more output.
If you are considering a change then my previous suggestions of Totem, PMC, Spendor, MAs, Focals will all be better for a modest 80 watts. Nevertheless small margins.
They are devilish to drive
Where do you get that from? It annoys me that this myth persists, and I suspect that is not your personal experience.
So what is the answer? Would the Leema be up to powering 19's?
TBH, i was looking at the 7's and 11's at the moment.
What would i need to power 7, 11, and 19? And would the 7 be an improvement over the 602 S3's i am currently using.
I would have thought that amplifiers in £1000 + bracket would be able to comfortbly power most speakers?
Matt
Hi Matt
Yes, as long as you're not after constant disco like levels then yes then your Leema Pulse amplifier is perfectly capable of being partnered with SCM19 monitors.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Musicraft (Derby), Specialist Hi-Fi/AV & Multimedia Dealer
good accurate audio monitoring and good sound reproduction to all 
The main difference between the SCM19 and SCM20 is the build (Cabinet) and the tweeter, its a much more expensive unit.
AFAIK the main mid bass driver is the same.
And about ATC speakers being pigs to drive, is a myth, they are quite easy to drive in terms of impedence load, its just their lack of efficiency that means if you want to play at higher levels, you need more power.
they can even be pretty too, i recently saw pictures of some that the owner had rubbed with t-cut(!) and car-polish(!!), and the results were very suprising!
they did look great! sorry for the hijack, but i can anyone link it. i can find it in search
Matt
I would suggest (can't fully qualify) that ATCs may just be a bridge too far for the Leema. They are devilish to drive and you'll need a real gutsy amp to make the most of them, more so if you like your music loud and proud.
Odd as it may seem, I have considered SCM19s in the past as they should suit my room. However, the drawbacks are: If you have a TT with low MV cart the Leema may puff and blow a bit at high levels. Not so with a CDP and FM tuner, but TTs and DVD players can demand more output.
If you are considering a change then my previous suggestions of Totem, PMC, Spendor, MAs, Focals will all be better for a modest 80 watts. Nevertheless small margins.
They are devilish to drive
Where do you get that from? It annoys me that this myth persists, and I suspect that is not your personal experience.
So what is the answer? Would the Leema be up to powering 19's?
TBH, i was looking at the 7's and 11's at the moment.
What would i need to power 7, 11, and 19? And would the 7 be an improvement over the 602 S3's i am currently using.
I would have thought that amplifiers in £1000 + bracket would be able to comfortbly power most speakers?
Matt
Hi Matt
Yes, as long as you're not after constant disco like levels then yes then your Leema Pulse amplifier is perfectly capable of being partnered with SCM19 monitors.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
(Note to self: Rickcraft and I agree on something).
they can even be pretty too, i recently saw pictures of some that the owner had rubbed with t-cut(!) and car-polish(!!), and the results were very suprising!
they did look great! sorry for the hijack, but i can anyone link it. i can find it in search
Matt
I would suggest (can't fully qualify) that ATCs may just be a bridge too far for the Leema. They are devilish to drive and you'll need a real gutsy amp to make the most of them, more so if you like your music loud and proud.
Odd as it may seem, I have considered SCM19s in the past as they should suit my room. However, the drawbacks are: If you have a TT with low MV cart the Leema may puff and blow a bit at high levels. Not so with a CDP and FM tuner, but TTs and DVD players can demand more output.
If you are considering a change then my previous suggestions of Totem, PMC, Spendor, MAs, Focals will all be better for a modest 80 watts. Nevertheless small margins.
They are devilish to drive
Where do you get that from? It annoys me that this myth persists, and I suspect that is not your personal experience.
So what is the answer? Would the Leema be up to powering 19's?
TBH, i was looking at the 7's and 11's at the moment.
What would i need to power 7, 11, and 19? And would the 7 be an improvement over the 602 S3's i am currently using.
I would have thought that amplifiers in £1000 + bracket would be able to comfortbly power most speakers?
Matt
Hi Matt
Yes, as long as you're not after constant disco like levels then yes then your Leema Pulse amplifier is perfectly capable of being partnered with SCM19 monitors.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
(Note to self: Rickcraft and I agree on something).
Hallelujah , Praise be to The Lord .
If we all try really hard maybe we could make this set of posts take up a whole page !
A word of warning I have a Leema Pulse running a pair of Dynaudio X-12's while I love the sound a couple of times when I admit I was playing at disco levels the Pulse has cut out. I now when wanting to be stupid with my sound levels play my wharfedale 9.1's through my Sony 1200ES AV amp and it has yet to cut out. Again just something to keep in mind. great amp for the money though! Seriously considering to add some PMC's to replace the Dyn's.
QUOTE from a atc spec FACT.... The lower a speakers sensitivity,the greater its low frequency output.Those concerned with the scm 20sl's sensitivity need not be.
The system has been deliberately designed that way to maximize bass handling. Unquote.
As plain as day.
The Dynaudio's are 4ohm nominal, so they will suck the power out of the amp. The Wharfdales are 6ohm nominal.
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The Dynaudio's are 4ohm nominal, so they will suck the power out of the amp. The Wharfdales are 6ohm nominal.
Yeah, I know, I was more so stating that the Leema can struggle with a tough load, although at sensible listening levels the Sony and Wharfedales cannot compete, I for a long time wanted to upgrade to focus range but after the 2nd time it cut out I realised it may not be the best choice to pair with the amp. Again don't get me wrong I love the leema. I'm certainly no expert technically, but I enjoy the sound I have.
The Dynaudio's are 4ohm nominal, so they will suck the power out of the amp. The Wharfdales are 6ohm nominal.
Yeah, I know, I was more so stating that the Leema can struggle with a tough load, although at sensible listening levels the Sony and Wharfedales cannot compete, I for a long time wanted to upgrade to focus range but after the 2nd time it cut out I realised it may not be the best choice to pair with the amp. Again don't get me wrong I love the leema. I'm certainly no expert technically, but I enjoy the sound I have.
This proves every component has its limits.
Perhaps if you wan to play at 'night club levels' you should invest in a system specifically designed for the purpose.
I only play at normal "family friendly levels" and the Leema is terrific in every respect.
I agree, no regrets with my purchase, those disco nights are far and few between and as I stated I have found an alternative with using the AV amp instead. Its more than capable to play at levels most people would play their music at.
Which would suit a 3m x 4m room.
Atc 19's or Atc 40's ?
Hi FATS2828 
Sorry alchemist 1 
Are you missing ATC monitors? 
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Musicraft (Derby), Specialist Hi-Fi/AV & Multimedia Dealer
good accurate audio monitoring and good sound reproduction to all
Might be :) [Bloody computers]
In your opinion Rick, which one would be appropriate ?
In a 10ft by 12ft room, would have thought that the SCM19 would be better, always prefered the 19 to the 40, better integration in the mid range/treble area and deeper and better controlled bass (SL-Spec magnet might help).
What amplifier/sources will you be useing with them?
The SCM19 will require a pretty decent amplfier (current and decent power supply rather than outright power).
A pair of used SCM20SL's would probably be the best value choice, if you can find some
It all really depends on how loud you listen and how big your room is.
I would say the 7's would be a big improvment over the 602's but if your room might be too big, as they can sound a little lost in larger rooms. I would still prefer them to the B&W's though.
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