I do agree with Sospri it does matter esp. in the UK where a lot of our industry has gone abroad. With the rising costs in China maybe some will come back?
These are different points to the OPs - the implication being that the Chinese can't build to the same standard as the UK or the US. That is the point I object to.
No it won't come back it will be moved to the next cheapest labour.......African countries maybe.
The other side though is cost, is it better to make abroad and stay in business than make here and go bankrupt? Also price to comsumer, it is it better to pay £800 for a Chinese amp or more for a UK one? I believe Creek went to China so they could offer budget gear which they could not do with UK based manufacturing.
That's the problem, if one manufacturer does it the competition has to follow suit or go out of business as most people won't pay more for 'Made in Britain'. Creek would want to tap into the budget sector because it's the biggest market.
Where does he imply that. I thought he was asking. As I said Wharfdale quality seems to have gone right downhill since they were made in China.
Anyway I was answering Sospri's point.
What stings me is when a British manufacturer farms out manufacture of an item to China and then continues to charge the same (or more).
They are #### wherever they are made.
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Just out of curiosity, in what way has it gone downhill.
Users and reviewers here have reported bad finish on their latest speakers.
Where does he imply that?
"What changes in the quality of an amplifier produced in China and one in England, for example?"
Our vacuum cleaner is British designed and manufactured. (In Chard in Somerset). And it is excellent.
The latest ones yes, but Wharfedale Diamonds have been made in China for some time and there were no complaints about the earlier ones.
No signature worth mentioning...
Poor finish of cabinets seems to be the main problem, I have read this in several reviews and buyers reports, there is one review in WHF.
Here is one review which cover the matter with 2 different speakers: http://www.whathifi.com/review/wharfedale-diamond-155
Isn't that what 'going downhill' implies?
Doing business in China is different from the UK and I'm sure there are a lot of setting up costs etc. |Here is one company that has moved back: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/management-advice/10079388/UK-firms-are-coming-back-from-China-but-they-need-more-help.html
Unfortunately, it is a sad reflection of our global economy that many products are now manufactured in China and Korea. The Hi-Fi industry in the UK has a long history of manufacturing abroad but 'fine tuning' components for the UK market (Marantz would be a prime example). Although sad in respect of the decline in the UK industry for specifically UK designed and built products, for many companies the costs are simply too prohibitive and those that choose to be completely 'home grown' are specialized and rather expensive.
In my opinion I would not be put off by the fact that a hi-fi product is built abroad, no more than if my car was was...but I do agree that it is one of the few industries that historically the UK specifically (and the USA & Europe in some cases for that matter) did very well and still does, in a more limited and niche market sector. I think the internal components and general standards have to be maintained and the fact that they are simply 'put together' abroad should not make a difference to the finished quality as long as the Named company has a thorough and consistantant QC and finishing programme. That's my soap-box opinion for the record anyway...
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