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My system comprises Rega Brio R, Audiolab 8200 cd player and Monitor Audio RX6 speakers. If I wanted to improve this system which of the components would it be best to replace

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You don't say what you think is wrong with your system. If you're happy with it, stick with it, don't get caught up in the idea that you have to be on a constant upgrade path. However, if you feel there are deficiencies, let us know what they are and people can make more informed suggestions. 

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That's good advice from Ben, I am at the point now where I'm really happy with things, it could be the synergy but sometimes upgrading one part if your system may upset the balance. Like Ben said what part of your system do you think could be improved? 

 

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RE: Improvement to system

Just wondered if say a change of amplifier would improve sound quality.

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Your components are all well rated and look well balanced in terms of cost.  How does the system sound to you?

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Most of the time fine, but some of my cd,s are quite old like me and are either poor recordings or my system is a bit bright and I wonder if a channge of amp to something like the new Arcam 19 might help

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If I were you I'd take pleasure from the fact that your system is good enough to show up a poor recording and look out for some good remasters of your favourite tunes.  I don't know the amp, so I can't comment on its tone.

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You'd be better off checking out the Steve Hoffman forums and finding out if you can get a better mastering than keep hunting down new bits of kit.  Most of your system is about five minutes old anyway, so hang on to it.  If it's bright, then look at the speakers and find something more balanced.  The RX6 seems to split opinion to some extent.  Or you could reporsition them slightly?  Maybe try toeing them out a little, or otherwise shifting their position a bit?  The amp and CDP will be fine.  Recommend the Hoffman site though; fantastic resource.

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Jame5 wrote:

If I were you I'd take pleasure from the fact that your system is good enough to show up a poor recording and look out for some good remasters of your favourite tunes.  I don't know the amp, so I can't comment on its tone.

 

It's often the remasters that are the culprits!  The original CDs (at least of most of the music I like) are usually more faithful to the analogue recording.

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If we're talking change for the sake of change, I guess a better amp is what I'd look at first, but I'd be looking to spend significantly more - maybe the 1000 pound mark, because I think buying the Arcam 19 would be more of a sideways step that might give you a different sound, not necessarily an improved sound (unless the characteristics of the Arcam amp fill the gap for what you think your current amp is missing).

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Lo Fi wrote:
Most of the time fine, but some of my cd,s are quite old like me and are either poor recordings or my system is a bit bright and I wonder if a channge of amp to something like the new Arcam 19 might help

Given you find some recordings a bit bright, the fact you have the Audiolab and RX6s isn't helping in this area. It was commented on another thread that you have to take the rough with the smooth. If you go for a warmer amp option it'll tame the bright recordings but make others sound dull IMO.

Anyway for £500 you're unlikely to find better than the Rega. If anything I'd look at changing speakers and/or CDP (Rega RS3 would make a lot of sense with your amp.) Smile

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Hi, well you have great kit! If it was me then I would probably change the RX6s although they are great speakers, I personally find them bright with some amplification. Perhaps you could try the Dynaudio DM 2/7s, have heard people using it with Brios and are happy.

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Have only recently purchased the RX6s so not keen on changing them. Previously had RX1s which did not seem so bright, maybe I just need to run them in longer or perhaps get some ne speaker cable.

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This will explain a lot. It took mine a week before a noticable improvement, including leaving them on quietely overnight and most of the day.

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plastic penguin wrote:

This will explain a lot. It took mine a week before a noticable improvement, including leaving them on quietely overnight and most of the day.

I have used the speakers for about 40/50 hours is this not enough to run them in.
I was listening very carefully today and found that most of my music was very detailed and dynamic so would not want to miss that aspect.
The sound is so clear on some recordings its like theartist is in the room. One other thing is that the room is quite live due to laminate floor which no doubt causes some of the brightness.

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plastic penguin wrote:

This will explain a lot. It took mine a week before a noticable improvement, including leaving them on quietely overnight and most of the day.

I have used the speakers for about 40/50 hours is this not enough to run them in. I was listening very carefully today and found that most of my music was very detailed and dynamic so would not want to miss that aspect. The sound is so clear on some recordings its like theartist is in the room. One other thing is that the room is quite live due to laminate floor which no doubt causes some of the brightness.

Right... that isn't helping the situation. I only time I've heard the RS6s sounding harsh was in a dem room which was sparse and had two huge glass windows. It did sound cloying. The amps used were the Leema and Moon.

Personally I would give it another week or so and then decide whether they have tamed enough.

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