I didn't consider Dynaudio...sounds like they're worth a try. I have just got news that Rega are unable to ship my pair of RS3 for at least another two weeks, so that should buy a bit more time. I liked them the most, compared to all the others I listened to, so it will be interesting indeed. I have to say though that even if midrange in orchestral music was not as crisp as it could have been, I would trade that for a less clinical sound overall. How would they compare to say PMC DB1? A friend has a pair of "Gold" and they are excellent but very dry (he's a musician and used to monitors).
Any other suggestion is more than welcome, I am a newbie...
Finally managed to demo the Excite X12, but in the end decided to go for the Rega. The main reasons are that in my opinion the Rega just sound more natural and the soundstage is much more precise.
The Dynaudio sound very open, there's a lot of detail and the base is definitely more powerful. Also, voices sound amazing at mid/high volumes (for me). But in orchestral music I felt that all the instruments were all on the same level, very forward, which is more exciting to listen to, but I think that in the long run I'd rather have a more precise imaging. Finally, I have found some heavy bass (Spotify quality) tracks that do upset the Rega's low end, it sounds like the whole speaker vibrates for an instant and that's a shame. I'm sure the Excite would deal with them much better, but it's a compromise I can live with. 99.9% of the times they're perfect for me, composed, detailed but never too forward.
Glad you liked the Dyns, they sure sound bigger that they actualy are!
At the end there is always personal taste, and I like a bit crisp and detail in a speaker, mainly because I was used to Monitor Audio metal dome twiter.
Enjoy you purchase as you system as a ALL!
Rega RP3 / Goldring 1012gx > Rega Fono MM V2
Synology DS213 > QED Performance USB > Rega DAC > QED Performance RCA
Pathos Classic One > Inakustik LS 1102 cable > Dynaudio Excite X12 and some times BK XLS200 MK II
SBT > G&BL teflon line RCA > NAD 3020i > Supra Classic 2x4mm > Monitor Audio RS1
You demoed speakers - you liked the RS3 the best!
HiFi Outlaw likes the Dyns.....thats fine......they are all good speakers....however seems you prefer the RS3 over the MA
Stick to the RS3 they will be superb with the Brio R even better when you get the DAC
I know the WHF forumites are tired about Rega and all the praise heaped on it but its well justified!
I was a bit anti-Rega a year or so ago, thought it looked ugly but I like the asthetics of it all now, but the sound!!! The Rega sound sold it for me! Yes the Rega synergy is definately there just look at the kit in peoples signatures tells a story.
Go have a listen to an RP3 TT sometime, but only if you have £550 to spare as I guarantee you will come out of the shop with one under your arm!
ATV3 > Rega DAC > Rega Elicit R > Rega RS3
Rega RP6 / 10x5 / MP-110
About a year and a half ago I demoed in-store at Audio T, the RS3's, Tannory DC6T's and Kef Q500's.
I then demoed at home (each set for a full weekend) the RS3's and DC6T's. With an amp upgrade in mind (probably the Brio-R) I was aware that my older Brio might not get the best out of the DC6T's in particular. I think the DC6T's might well have been more exciting with a better amp, but I just liked listening to the RS3's - they seemed more engaging and more musical. Out of the two I would have chosen the RS3's. My wife thought they looked lovely!
I then decided to put together a home cinema system, so maybe next year I will be back to this dilema of an amp/speaker upgrade, with the Brio R and RS3's as a reference point.
For now though I am expecting a delivery on Monday of the BK XXLS400 DF sub
HiFi: Rega Brio 2000, Rega Apollo CDP, Mission 780's on Atacama SE20's. BK XXLS400DF. Chord Crimson Plus & Chord Carnival Silverscreen (b/w), Tacima MC.
HC: Pansonic TX-P50C3B, Onkyo TX-NR609, Sony BDP S480, MA BX2's, MA BXFX & MA BX Centre. BK XXLS400DF. Chord Carnival Silverscreen & Classic cables.
Kitchen: Sonos Play:1
On the MA, bear in mind I only have experience of the BX2. I do like them - I just find that the base is overpowering for classical music and sometimes feels a bit "boxy". Compared to the Rega, the mid-low (cellos for instance) steal the show in the MA, but are nowhere as detailed as in the Rega; for instance very deep notes (tubas, double base, piano) get lost easily, or are not as defined. The Regas are brilliant on that: every note has its place it seems, even though they will never deliver base to shake the room. On the MA, there is a lot of crisp high frequency detail but it doesn't sound as natural and smooth as on the Rega; I find it impressive but a little dry. Also, the soundstage is much flatter and I think this detracts from "musicality" or engagement - but they cost less than a third than the Rega!
Also, I decided to go for the Arcam A19 amp over the Brio-R. So no synergy for me! I was set on the Brio-R given all the raving reviews, but it did sound bright with the RS3s. Even changed source, from my cheap (upsampling) Creative DAC to Apollo CD. Maybe the cables? Not sure what the demo room had, but they were very revealing, I remember listening to Elgar's cello Concerto and thinking that I could hear the high freq of the strings touching the wood enoguh to be distracting. I am now using Chord Sarsen cables, as advised by the shop. Perhaps they would make a difference for the Brio/Rega too. On the Arcam though, it has a stronger low end than the Brio-R, that's what you notice straight away, and even more defined soundstage. Particularly with good quality recordings, like 24bit FLAC or some DECCA recordings. It is a bit warmer which I like, but voices don't jump out and make you want to sing as much as with the Brio . It feels like everything is under control, effortless, smooth with lots of detail - even my old BX2 sound much more composed and refined, and very warm. I always feel I'm not pushing it enough in a way.
Finally on looks: I have to say, I still don't like the way the Regas look at all. But they're incospicuous enough to blend in the room and go unnoticed. They look a bit DIY, so my friends are surprised by their sound rather than being impressed by how cool my system is . They are getting more and more open as the time passes - or it is just a subjective impression, but it's the same thing for me in a way!
Judge Rega Speakers on there looks at your peril!
My Rega RS1 sound excellent, some comments on another thrread that they sound boxy because they are a closed box design - they are not they are rear ported!
I imagine the RS3 have the same signature as the RS1, which is a defined mid range, sweet treble - never found wanting for more bass even on some of Massive Attack/Orbital LPs.
Dont get me wrong they are not for everyone - but in my system/room they beat the Neat Motive 3 and MA RX1.
I prefer the look of my Rega R3s. (Real Maple veneer.)
The front grilles meet the side and top edges of the cabinets and are curved at the bottom.
The side grilles have radiused corners.
The R3s are also shorter and thinner than the RS3s and appear more compact.
I don't like the angular front grilles on the RS3 and they don't meet the edges of the cabinet, so they look a bit weird to my eye. The RS3 side grilles don't have radiused corners and have two corners 'lopped off'.
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It's probably been asked before but how does the side speaker differ, purely in sonic terms, from a conventional forward firing one?
Amp: Leema Pulse; Source: Naim CD5i-2, Denon 260MKII, Pro-ject XP I; Speakers: PMC TB2i
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Its a low frequency driver, so I wouldnt say technically it sounds different to any other Rega driver - It just allows the user to set them up according to room acoustics and preference. Some people prefer them inwards, others outwards depending on proximity of side walls!
I really do think the RS3s look great, not flashy quite minimal in fact which is the opposite to how they sound!
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