Shumtymsh you're jusht shtuck with it becaush the recording hash shibilansh.
That's the worst Sean Connery impression I've ever seen.
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Wish you could hear my screen reader pronounce that line! hilarious!
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Back to subject, i would say the pre-amp causes the sibilance, because the Audiolab to my ears was rather dull sounding in that area. Anyway a certain amount of sibilance just exists. You could get used to it.
Why change your beautiful Cayin ? If you want more bass, buy a more expensive tube-amp. If you really want strong bass, buy a transistor-amp but then you must say goodbye to all that beautiful tube-sound.
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How are your room acoustics?
If it's bright, it may help fitting a couple of acoustic panels to tame your room.
If you're handy, you could even make them yourself...
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Could the sibliance be due to poor production/recording on some discs ? Some amps will highlight this more than others. Just an idea.
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I haven't replaced the Cayin, it'll find a home in my bedroom system, I bought the Audiolab and Icon Audio for my living room to go with some new speakers...I don't know if it's the preamp as its all tube and I have heard my mate's audiolab 8000 pre/power with bnw 683s which sound bright as well.
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Maybe I'm just too used to the silky smoothness of the Cayin as I've never had the sibliance issue with them on any recording.....however, you are right because the sibliance is much less of a problem when I'm playing flacs...but I want to listen to other stuff too!
I think my room acoustics are better than most as I've never had a brightness problem before
Well good luck in solving this issue, I know where you are coming from and it can be annoying. I love my vinyl and some discs are superb and others sound dreadful. Never noticed it until switching to valves. How long have you had the pre-amp ? Sometimes it can take a while for the tubes to settle in.
thank you, well I've had it less than a week and I hope what they usually say about tubes burning in is true in this case....I might also have to put better tubes than the current ones which seem EDITED to be honest
I've been having sibilance problems with a system I'm demoing at home. You can check out the last few pages of Cno's AMS35i thread. I'm just about the post the results of some stuff I did this morning to mitigate the room acoustics, with no success, I'm afraid.
I hope you get this sorted. My concern would be that it might be a system synergy problem.
What classical music are you listening to?
Mordaunt Short Mezzo 6 speakers (and many speakers with metal dome ) have a tendency to sibilance,even with high end amp+cd player. Change the speakers if you can.
No problem. Yes I would give it a week and try if possible to use the system every day for as long as reasonable. From what I gather some valve amps need running in for a week or so to really shine. Same with the tubes. My advice would be to give it a while longer, maybe try different tubes if there is no improvement at the end. I would definately recommend this first before considering any bigger more drastic system changing. Since it is the pre/power amp that has brought about this issue.
+1, and more often than not it could be the source (be it CD player or streaming etc) that's the weak link, or the speakers. But I'd always look at the source first.
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I just got an audiolab 8000p and an icon audio la4mk3 preamp, the combo is great but I am experiencing some vocal sibliance especially for female vocalists....its a disaster because I mainly listen to female vocalists. I don't know whether its the pre or the power at blame but its certainly not the rest of the setup as I've had no such problems with my Cayin. Any suggestions? Its ruining an otherwise great setup.
From memory Shafin, the Mezzo speakers veer towards the brighter end of the spectrum (or more detailed, as you prefer). This may be a case of the contrast between the valve amp and the contemporary speaker sounds clashing. Depending on your musical taste, then you might find that some recordings are too bright as well. So it really depends on several factors. My gut feeling would be around the speakers and looking at something that has a more even-handed treble unit which is less fussy in what it's partnered with. I've not tried either of your sources, but the CD5004 wasn't reckoned to be a bright sounding CD player, nor the Denon streamer.
Have you tried a slight repositioning of your speakers out of interest? Nothing major, a few inches either way and change the angle of toe-in to a degree (or out even). Might be worth a go. And it's free!
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