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Your best bet would be to find a new or newish amp with a USB DAC input and a headphone socket, and a suitable pair of speakers.

 

Is there such a thing as an amp with both a dac and a phono input?

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Hiya.

The denon you mention is a good starter amp and the q acoustics speakers are very good value for money.

Project and rega are very good starter turntables too.  I wouldn't dismiss the second hand market there some amazing bargins out there on ebay and try 2nd hand hifi . com they have a great range.  

welcome aboard. 

Keep on rocking  :rockout:

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So I went to Richer Sounds (there's one just down the road!) and the guy told me a cambridge audio amp (CAMBRIDGE AUDIO
TOPAZ AM5 - I think this is the one, there were a few and they all looked pretty similar) would be better than the denon. He also said cambridge audio speakers were the way to go. Idk if he's secretly working for cambridge audio or if he just likes things to match.  :shifty:

I was also told that you can connect a laptop to your amp using the headphone socket. But then you wouldn't be able to listen with headphones, right? Unless maybe you bought a separate headphone amp and listened through that?  :O

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So I went to Richer Sounds (there's one just down the road!) and the guy told me a cambridge audio amp (CAMBRIDGE AUDIO
TOPAZ AM5 - I think this is the one, there were a few and they all looked pretty similar) would be better than the denon. He also said cambridge audio speakers were the way to go. Idk if he's secretly working for cambridge audio or if he just likes things to match.  :shifty:

I was also told that you can connect a laptop to your amp using the headphone socket. But then you wouldn't be able to listen with headphones, right? Unless maybe you bought a separate headphone amp and listened through that?  :O

 

I would beware of salemen! I think there is a connection between CA nad Richer Sounds so again beware. I don't know CA speakers but think there are better choices out there. CA has a rep for being a bit lively/bright so care matching maybe needed. I think he means laptop headphone into amp.

 

The thing to do is listen to some different ones in a demo room. Don't rush into it.

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Well Richer Sounds are the sole distributors of Cambridge in the UK, so you may wish to consider whether they have a vested interest in saying that.  Personally I haven't found the Topazes very good, but maybe that's just me.  Further, I;ve only heard one pair of Cambridge speakers and they're not what I would call full-range.  I think the Denon and Q Acoustics system you describe would be very good.

Whoever said that about the laptop probably meant the headphone socket of the laptop, not of the amplifier. 

To answer your other quesiton about amps with USB input and phono stage, I can't think of one off the top of my head (certainly not in your budget), but it looks as if the mooted Marantz PM6005 may do.  Again, it's probably going to push your budget too high; I'd be inclined to (more messily) buy a cheap USB DAC to plug into the laptop (they can be had for very little money to begin with) and plug it into whatever amp you choose.

Pro-ject or s/h Rega P2 would be my choice of turntable.

EDIT - a second hand Yamaha DSP-620AX would give you a lot of the things you need for peanuts, btw, especially if your laptop has an optical output.

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I would beware of salemen! I think there is a connection between CA nad Richer Sounds so again beware. I don't know CA speakers but think there are better choices out there.

I am very wary :flower: Purely from an aesthetic point of view, I prefer the q acoustics speakers anyway.

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CA has a rep for being a bit lively/bright so care matching maybe needed. I think he means laptop headphone into amp.

The thing to do is listen to some different ones in a demo room. Don't rush into it.

I think he meant 3.5 jack to jack from the laptop headphone socket to an input on the amp? The Denon pma-520ae has multiple inputs at the back - one of these is an aux input. Could I concievably plug my laptop/mp3 player into that?

I think I'm too lazy/scared to try and demo stuff :eek:

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I think he meant 3.5 jack to jack from the laptop headphone socket to an input on the amp? The Denon pma-520ae has multiple inputs at the back - one of these is an aux input. Could I concievably plug my laptop/mp3 player into that?

I think I'm too lazy/scared to try and demo stuff :eek:

 

You can put it into any socket on the back of amp apart from the phono and it should work fine, thats what I did.

 

You must demo don't be afraid, just go for it but don't buy anything unless you are sure best to think it over and have a second demo than buy the wrong things. Richer Sounds have an exchange policy so you can change stuff which is fine if they have something you want. I would try Marantz/Denon and the Arcam A18 if they have one. Book a demo room for one hour and see how it goes. 

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To answer your other quesiton about amps with USB input and phono stage, I can't think of one off the top of my head (certainly not in your budget), but it looks as if the mooted Marantz PM6005 may do.  Again, it's probably going to push your budget too high; I'd be inclined to (more messily) buy a cheap USB DAC to plug into the laptop (they can be had for very little money to begin with) and plug it into whatever amp you choose.

Pro-ject or s/h Rega P2 would be my choice of turntable.

 Yeah, the marantz is way too expensive. I don't need a usb input if I can do laptop-->amp. I shall google turntables in a second. My laptop is so old - not only does it lack an optical thingy, it also shuts itself off if I stress it out too much.

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EDIT - a second hand Yamaha DSP-620AX would give you a lot of the things you need for peanuts, btw, especially if your laptop has an optical output.

:jawdrop: That Yamaha is beautiful! Especially the gold version. I AM IN LOVE but have no idea where I would find such a thing. Sad

 

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EBAY!!

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BigH wrote:

You can put it into any socket on the back of amp apart from the phono and it should work fine, thats what I did.

Excellent Smile

BigH wrote:

You must demo don't be afraid, just go for it but don't buy anything unless you are sure best to think it over and have a second demo than buy the wrong things. Richer Sounds have an exchange policy so you can change stuff which is fine if they have something you want. I would try Marantz/Denon and the Arcam A18 if they have one. Book a demo room for one hour and see how it goes.

OK, maybe I will? What's the worst that could happen? Thanks! :cheers:

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They have a couple of DSP-AX620's listed, which I assume are the same thing? Biggrin I also see a SONY TA-F4A which looks pretty swish.

But this way madness lies. I'm wary of buying second hand and ending up with something broken, or soon-to-be broken.

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Pro-ject or s/h Rega P2 would be my choice of turntable.

The three I can afford and like the look of are the Pro-Ject Debut S/E3/Pro-Ject Debut Carbon/Rega RP1.

Leaning towards the Debut S/E3 because of price + ability to modify so that it plays 78rpm. Good/terrible idea?

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Yes sorry, DSP-AX620, my mistake.

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John Duncan wrote:

Pro-ject or s/h Rega P2 would be my choice of turntable.

The three I can afford and like the look of are the Pro-Ject Debut S/E3/Pro-Ject Debut Carbon/Rega RP1.

Leaning towards the Debut S/E3 because of price + ability to modify so that it plays 78rpm. Good/terrible idea?

All of those are good ideas. I might go for the Carbon myself (have had Pro-ject in the past) but whatever you like the look of tbh.

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Now I'm stuck on ebay Sad

Would it be weird to buy a £50 amp from the 70s and team it with a £200 turntable from today?

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