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RE: Holy mackerel! Devialet are trickling down!

Matt.. have a listen to the AMS 35i when fully warmed up  and the Devialet for a long period  before making any judgement.

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Matt.. have a listen to the AMS 35i when fully warmed up  and the Devialet for a long period  before making any judgement.

... said the man who IIRC bought his amp blind... Wink

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:cheers: I'm very happy for you, Matt! Certainly you didn't decide lightly! Enjoy!

Cheers, Doc. I've been working on this for the best part of six months. I'm as confident as I can be that I've made the right decision.

:cheers:

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You won't upset me as I'm all too well aware of the shortcommings of the 35i.

Given how much you like the Devialet, I think you have made the right decision.....especially if you go with the type of musical speakers you have been pairing it with. I would encourage you to also try it with some Kef R Series (if you haven't already - can't remember).

Your comment about "detail, detail" is spot on....so I would strongly recommend you experiment with cables (including mains cables), once the system has settled in ie. Brands like Vertere, TQ, Atlas (try some Mavros) and possibly Cardas.

Thanks, Cno! Your advice has been invaluable. Lots and lots of listening ...

Your points about cables etc are duly noted.

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Matt.. have a listen to the AMS 35i when fully warmed up  and the Devialet for a long period  before making any judgement.

Thanks, Iceman. I did have the AMS35i on demo at home for a week. I also did two auditions at my local dealer. I think I've given the AMS35i a fair crack of the whip. It's a superb amp, but the Dev just sneeks in ahead (for me) thanks to its profound transparency and functionality.

:cheers:

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Hi Matt,

Excellent news, really pleased for you... obviously, not having heard it,  I can't make any informed comment about the Devialet, but feel I do know the kind of SQ and functionality you have been looking for and from what you've said about the 170, it sure sounds  like the amp for you.

Would you be considering the Cremona Auditor's for the speakers?

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Hi Matt,

Excellent news, really pleased for you... obviously, not having heard it,  I can't make any informed comment about the Devialet, but feel I do know the kind of SQ and functionality you have been looking for and from what you've said about the 170, it sure sounds  like the amp for you.

Would you be considering the Cremona Auditor's for the speakers?

Mac

Cheers, Mac!

I'm very grateful for all your help. You must hear the Devialet sometime soon: I think/hope you'll like it.

As for speakers, I need to take a step back and start all over again. The Sonus Fabers sound great, but there's a whole world of speakers out there. I plan to start demoing when I get back from holiday at the end of August. New speakers in place by Christmas?

Matt

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I'm plagiarizing this comment from PFM because I think it's of interest and may partly explain why Devialet sounds so good (though I don't fully understand all the implications of it):

"The Devialet is much like a Quad current dumper, with the dumper stage replaced with a Class D stage. This is very cunning as it solves major Class D failings. The switching residue of the main power stage is cancelled by feedback through the Class A stage. With the switching noise absent, there is no longer a need for a passive output filter; and without a passive output filter, there is no longer this annoying dependency of the system frequency response on the actual speaker impedance. Really smart thinking, and at the same time a homage to the great analogue amplifier designers of the 70s."

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I'm plagiarizing this comment from PFM because I think it's of interest and may partly explain why Devialet sounds so good (though I don't fully understand all the implications of it):

"The Devialet is much like a Quad current dumper, with the dumper stage replaced with a Class D stage. This is very cunning as it solves major Class D failings. The switching residue of the main power stage is cancelled by feedback through the Class A stage. With the switching noise absent, there is no longer a need for a passive output filter; and without a passive output filter, there is no longer this annoying dependency of the system frequency response on the actual speaker impedance. Really smart thinking, and at the same time a homage to the great analogue amplifier designers of the 70s."

Doesn't mean a thing to me... sure it doesn't make any difference to the sound anyway! they all sound the same, don't they?

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... sure it doesn't make any difference to the sound anyway! they all sound the same, don't they?

Does a one legged duck swim in a straight line?  Wink

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I'm plagiarizing this comment from PFM because I think it's of interest and may partly explain why Devialet sounds so good (though I don't fully understand all the implications of it):

"The Devialet is much like a Quad current dumper, with the dumper stage replaced with a Class D stage. This is very cunning as it solves major Class D failings. The switching residue of the main power stage is cancelled by feedback through the Class A stage. With the switching noise absent, there is no longer a need for a passive output filter; and without a passive output filter, there is no longer this annoying dependency of the system frequency response on the actual speaker impedance. Really smart thinking, and at the same time a homage to the great analogue amplifier designers of the 70s."

Yes, this struck me as a nicely expressed version of more rebarbative explanations that I've read elsewhere, though like Mac I couldn't say I fully understand it. Anyway I do know that the Dev sounds awesome -- or should I say it sounds just as good as my fully transparent £50 Argos system.

:cheers:

Matt

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CnoEvil wrote:

I'm plagiarizing this comment from PFM because I think it's of interest and may partly explain why Devialet sounds so good (though I don't fully understand all the implications of it):

"The Devialet is much like a Quad current dumper, with the dumper stage replaced with a Class D stage. This is very cunning as it solves major Class D failings. The switching residue of the main power stage is cancelled by feedback through the Class A stage. With the switching noise absent, there is no longer a need for a passive output filter; and without a passive output filter, there is no longer this annoying dependency of the system frequency response on the actual speaker impedance. Really smart thinking, and at the same time a homage to the great analogue amplifier designers of the 70s."

Yes, this struck me as a nicely expressed version of more rebarbative explanations that I've read elsewhere, though like Mac I couldn't say I fully understand it. Anyway I do know that the Dev sounds awesome -- or should I say it sounds just as good as my fully transparent £50 Argos system.

:cheers:

Matt

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Anyway I do know that the Dev sounds awesome -- or should I say it sounds just as good as my fully transparent £50 Argos system.

:cheers:

Matt

No Argos dealers in Belgium :cry:...

But if you say the Devialet is just as good, I might get one of those! Smile

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matt49 wrote:

Anyway I do know that the Dev sounds awesome -- or should I say it sounds just as good as my fully transparent £50 Argos system.

:cheers:

Matt

No Argos dealers in Belgium :cry:...

But if you say the Devialet is just as good, I might get one of those! Smile

No Argos, bummer!

Maybe you should get one of those Marantz or Denon clock radios that are so highly regarded on here?

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Oooh, these look nice too! They even have a battery, so no need for a powerline conditioner or balanced mains supply! But I can't find the frequency response of the inbuilt speaker... And it lacks the Devialet's nice remote... Ahhh, choices, choices!

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