Seeing that the German prices are absolutely taking the p---, can you not buy it from the UK have have it posted? I thought the whole idea of the common market is that you don't get whacked by local VAT and import taxes, so long as you buy from another EU country. The only thing you should have to pay extra is post. And I shipped a 20kg Technics keyboard to Romania a couple of years ago and saw change from £50, so posting to Germany should be cheaper than that.
Main system: Mac Mini 2011 > HRT II+ DAC • Cyrus 2 & PSX • Cyrus tuner • MS 10i speakers [on loan]
Also cluttering-up the place: Thorens TD160 (no cart) • Marantz CD 63 mkII KI & PM66 KI • Technics SL-P777 • Nakamichi DR-1
Why don't you try Nebula to build an all German system? HECO speakers are excellent. I own and heard a couple of them and they are incredible value.
Besides you can buy some equipment from BLOCK. A german firm with mid-fi worthing every penny.
And check this e-shop as well. I bought some ONKYO receiver few years ago and sent it over to Greece, no taxes, no VAT and at a reasonable shipping cost (they have REGA too!)
Heco the Statement floorstanders
Rotel rdd-06 dac
Rotel RB-1092 power amp
Asus Xonar essence STX sound card
Atlas Cables Equator MKII Interconnects
Speaker cable Oehlbach Twin Mix Two 2x6 mm2
Major Fubar, that's not quite fair. Germany seems to have a good home grown industry so probably doesn't need the UK imports. I mean, is there a British manufacturer who makes a Valve amp (in the preamp stage) that sells for around the £350 mark? There's also a raft of German speaker makers who are mostly unknown in the UK and sell their product at decent prices - people know Canton and Elac, but there's Magnat, Heco and Nubert, who make outstanding speakers at reasonable prices. They make them in Germany, too, and don't out source to China.
You probably don't find great discounts on UK products, but that has much to do with the local agent and not the dealer.
Agree with the above - build a system with German components.
Yes, I didn't said I dont' like German brands. Problem is, I'm not so familiar with Hi-Fi sytems. That's why I'm asking, whether my configuration is good or not.
I will buy Heco Victa 301 speakers (there are a lot of good reviews), Pro-Ject Debut III turntable (you can change the cartridge later), Pioneer A-30 amplifier (class AB, again a lot of good reviews). There are some german amplifiers also, but they are high-end components and they mostly cost more than 500€ (not for a poor student). And I've asked the same question in german hi-fi forum, but still no answer.
P.S. I wouldn't buy something like Pioneer or Yamaha. In my opinion, they are consumer products for mass. Isn't it?
Major Fubar, that's not quite fair. Germany seems to have a good home grown industry so probably doesn't need the UK imports. I mean, is there a British manufacturer who makes a Valve amp (in the preamp stage) that sells for around the £350 mark?
Think you misinterpretted my post. Looking at some of the UK products he was recommended to buy, there seems to be a large price difference between here and Germany. All I was suggesting is, if he really wants those products, he could look at importing them from the UK, and even with the price of shipping, it looks like he could have plenty of spare change, compared to the 'official' price of the same products bought through local outlets in his own country. As for German HiFi products, by and large I I have no knowledge of them, they could be the best in the world for all I know!
Thank you, MajorFubar. What do you think about NAD C 316BEE?
I heard this amp not too long ago actually. I do like it, but somehow, like nearly all NAD amps I've heard (which to be fair is not very many!) it failed to stir me. It ticked loads of boxes, yet somehow it didn't stir my emotions. Sorry if that sounds all wishy washy and vague, but it's the best way I can think of putting it. You may love it though, it's very detailed and is an enjoyable listen. It just never made my jaw drop somehow.
Nad 316BEE & MA BX1 or Q-Acoustic 2010I? (some find the BX1 to be better then the BX2's)
Presonus 22vsl soundcard, Tc electronic level pilot and Yamaha HS8 with 40 mm foam between the speakers and my desk
For this price bracket, only Japanese manufacturers produce value for money hifi, aka Pioneer, Rotel, Yamaha, Onkyo, TEAC, Sansui (revived in UK though) and NAD (canadian whatever...) . So don't hesitate to spend your money to one of those. There's no one else to .
HOWEVER, there are few companies from Taiwan, China, Hong Kong etc, that make very cheap equipment which is worth considering as well. To get familiar with these newcomers check the TNT-audio review portal. There is plenty of material regarding cheap amps apart from the traditional manufacturers. You can mail order most of them.
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