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Well listening to War of the Worlds now on vinyl, never heard it as it as good as this bearing in mind I have a budget RP1 turntable - it's gonna be a long night! - I wonder how the Odyssey 2 sounds compared to the Spatia 

Re: my mark grant coaxial - it's a 75ohm cable with canare connectors! 

Going through my vinyl at the minute but will get to my Adele - 21 soon, I have it on cd and vinyl do will give the cd a spin first 

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The honest truth - I had only just bought biwire so 2 sets of Odyssey 2 about 4 months ago and the matching odyssey 4 centre cost me about £350 all in, maybe bit more.

4 months later heard the Spatia and the Odyssey is gone without a second blink.  I have never heard a cable make such a difference.

The Odyssey doesnt touch it, all beit still a good cable.  Its detail / sound is harsh and messy by comparison not smooth and layered properly..

You wont get that in the room sound either its muddled and fuzzy by comparisom and I was testing on very good kit (see sig) with some acoustic treatment as well so i was hearing the cable not the room.

 

Not taking away from the Odyssey its good stuff - but its not a pacth on the spatia.  I have owned the Epic as well, and heard it what Hi Fi where it was awesome, it didnt sound like that in my home, as my acosutics were bad then and it was off a receiever - depsite it being the best receiver of the year LX83.  Even after hearing that I still think the spatia will be better, especially if you dont have a properly treated listenign room - the Epic gets harsh in that environment.

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Canare is the manufactuer - it the Mark Grant uses RCA's then try the Lautus in its place.

If not maybe ask if you can borrow a cable to try as a digital with the correct connector on.  They make the cables with Din connector for an extra £4.50.

 

I think wait to see if you want them first if you have to ask for another cable.  Sure they wont mind making one for you to test - really friendly company like that.

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Yes my mark grant digi coax had canare RCA connectors on 

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Yes my mark grant digi coax had canare RCA connectors on 

 

In that case when you have a chance test the lautus out as a digital.  The Cusat is really good the Luatus will be the same

I will be interested to hear your thoughts on that as well and what you think of Adele - especially rumour has it.

Not telling you what to do - but its easy to test everything you thought sounded good before, I always try and test what didnt sound good before and lots of different genre of music.  True test of a bit of kit then.

 

Please keep posting as its interesting to me and good for anyone who reads this after - I am going to bed

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Will do gonna try a few CDs now 

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Will do gonna try a few CDs now 

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Well when I first tried the Spatia it was obviously connected wrong and a lot of my bassy music sounded... Well too bassy.... With the Spatia connected correctly the bass has really tightened up, zero 7 and morcheeba sounding really good now! 

Money thing I have noticed now with the rega DAC is how close it sounds to analogue, it really is a smooth rich non fatiguing sound - I love it - these cables seem to be really showing what my Rega set up can do!

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stevebrock wrote:

Well when I first tried the Spatia it was obviously connected wrong and a lot of my bassy music sounded... Well too bassy.... With the Spatia connected correctly the bass has really tightened up, zero 7 and morcheeba sounding really good now! 

Money thing I have noticed now with the rega DAC is how close it sounds to analogue, it really is a smooth rich non fatiguing sound - I love it - these cables seem to be really showing what my Rega set up can do!

Well well....it just goes to show.

If Ellisdj hadn't picked up on it, they would have been wrongly discarded. I suspect this may happen a lot with products that can be connected incorrectly.

As a cable advocate, I'm glad it worked out.

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So what are the physics behind the Spatia and the need for the correct orientation ? 

Read Graham's blog here http://www.gspaudio.co.uk/blog/am-i-a-liar-directional-audio-cables_post40.html

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Hi Steve

 

how did you get on with CD's??

in regards to your other comments - all cables really do is connect equipment - however it's amazing how they impact the Sound you get.

i think the Spatia let's you hear your kit or better lets you hear the music / sound from your kit. And after hearing them you realise other cables actually get in the way... To certain degrees.

i have no doubt there will be better out there but for the money I doubt there is

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the spatia sounds fantastic!

Been listening to CDs all night with the Spatia cables connected up the right - yes all sounds much more together than the Carnival, seems to be able to stay composed when I push the volume up! 

Lke you say I'm probably hearing what my amp & speakers are capable of!

Adele - 21 still a little but snouty but am able to play it louder now without it hurting my ears! 

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CnoEvil wrote:

stevebrock wrote:

Well when I first tried the Spatia it was obviously connected wrong and a lot of my bassy music sounded... Well too bassy.... With the Spatia connected correctly the bass has really tightened up, zero 7 and morcheeba sounding really good now! 

Money thing I have noticed now with the rega DAC is how close it sounds to analogue, it really is a smooth rich non fatiguing sound - I love it - these cables seem to be really showing what my Rega set up can do!

Well well....it just goes to show.

If Ellisdj hadn't picked up on it, they would have been wrongly discarded. I suspect this may happen a lot with products that can be connected incorrectly.

As a cable advocate, I'm glad it worked out.

Had the same with my Chopins - when I took my CDP into the dealers the other day he pointed out my i/c were connected incorrectly. Had the darn things for 7 years and only just known about them being out of phase. :oops:

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Had the same with my Chopins - when I took my CDP into the dealers the other day he pointed out my i/c were connected incorrectly. Had the darn things for 7 years and only just known about them being out of phase. :oops:

Has changing them round made a difference?

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