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Sospri wrote:

Upgrading the fuse or not, its still a fuse and thereby a restriction  banging head against wall .................

....less of a restriction though.  shifty

A fuse with less restriction = a blown up amplifier! puzzled

 

Yes I hear NAims blow up quite easily, esp. you don't use Naim cable.

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bigboss wrote:

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Upgrading the fuse or not, its still a fuse and thereby a restriction  banging head against wall .................

....less of a restriction though.  shifty

A fuse with less restriction = a blown up amplifier! puzzled

  The fuse isn't there to protect the equipment. It's to protect the cable (and you from it). Audiofile fuses are of coarse pure bull though....

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RE:don't judge me before you hear what I have to say

Now I've heard what you have to say, is it ok if I judge you now?

 

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Now I've heard what you have to say, is it ok if I judge you now?

 

absolutely, label me crazy

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RobinKidderminster wrote:
Hopefully, despite a little wobble, this thread will avoid the obvious believer/doubter arguments and get back to the op 'flavour' inviting users actual experiences. I am a kinda mostly doubter but it remains valauble to know of users experiences with particular kit & connects. Anyone had cables on loan? I'm sure the science will remain unproven and testing subjective. Opinion however is indisputable. Cheers

That is what I am hoping too, I hoped more users will share their experiences and tips. If I did everything by math and science then I wouldn't invest all my savings on a hi-fi and be happy. Don't really want to debate, I heard what I heard and I honestly hope someone will try it with an open mind.

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Lol.... sometimes I read and really wonder how some of you have your kit set up......and what your system must sound like.

Mains cables do make a difference, I was suprised how much too, but in my case it was not for the better - I tried an Audiquest NRG-X3. this on a Rotel ra-1520 ( not an impressive amp ... to my ears) the difference between it and the stock cable was dramatic.

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There's nothing to stir a vigorous debate in a hifi forum than talk of whether cables work eh?

My take on all this is that if the cost of cable in question is not exorbitant relative to the cost of the kit, and if the listener hears a difference (even if it's imagined) then why not? In Shafesk's case the price of the cable was less than 5 % that of the amp, so I think it's entirely reasonable. Suppose someone was looking to buy an amp priced at £10,000 or more and the dealer strongly recommended a mains cable that cost say £200. In my experience, very few people would say no since they would want to wring the best performance from their amp and the cost of doing so in proportion to the amp is not over-the-top.

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Singslinger wrote:

There's nothing to stir a vigorous debate in a hifi forum than talk of whether cables work eh? My take on all this is that if the cost of cable in question is not exorbitant relative to the cost of the kit, and if the listener hears a difference (even if it's imagined) then why not? In Shafesk's case the price of the cable was less than 5 % that of the amp, so I think it's entirely reasonable. Suppose someone was looking to buy an amp priced at £10,000 or more and the dealer strongly recommended a mains cable that cost say £200. In my experience, very few people would say no since they would want to wring the best performance from their amp and the cost of doing so in proportion to the amp is not over-the-top.

That must be right.  However £60 would buy me 3 or 4 reasonable bottles of wine and as I am perfectly happy with my hifi that seems a rather better investment.  Laughing

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There's nothing to stir a vigorous debate in a hifi forum than talk of whether cables work eh? My take on all this is that if the cost of cable in question is not exorbitant relative to the cost of the kit, and if the listener hears a difference (even if it's imagined) then why not? In Shafesk's case the price of the cable was less than 5 % that of the amp, so I think it's entirely reasonable. Suppose someone was looking to buy an amp priced at £10,000 or more and the dealer strongly recommended a mains cable that cost say £200. In my experience, very few people would say no since they would want to wring the best performance from their amp and the cost of doing so in proportion to the amp is not over-the-top.

That must be right.  However £60 would buy me 3 or 4 reasonable bottles of wine and as I am perfectly happy with my hifi that seems a rather better investment.  Laughing

Chris

One man's cable is another man's wine! beauty, eh

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Singslinger wrote:

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Singslinger wrote:

There's nothing to stir a vigorous debate in a hifi forum than talk of whether cables work eh? My take on all this is that if the cost of cable in question is not exorbitant relative to the cost of the kit, and if the listener hears a difference (even if it's imagined) then why not? In Shafesk's case the price of the cable was less than 5 % that of the amp, so I think it's entirely reasonable. Suppose someone was looking to buy an amp priced at £10,000 or more and the dealer strongly recommended a mains cable that cost say £200. In my experience, very few people would say no since they would want to wring the best performance from their amp and the cost of doing so in proportion to the amp is not over-the-top.

That must be right.  However £60 would buy me 3 or 4 reasonable bottles of wine and as I am perfectly happy with my hifi that seems a rather better investment.  Laughing

Chris

One man's cable is another man's wine! beauty, eh

Buy a  man some wine and he will be happy for a night; give him a m/c and give him pleasure for life.  Wink

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Shafesk, your "relvations" only made me stay well clear from Cayin gear. thx. (in fact, this applies to Hegel and Gryphon too).

if a piece of amp responds to a change of a power cable then there surely must be something fudamentally wrong with its power suplly section. not the best place to cut cost but definitely the most used.

haha, well my friend all three companies are high end manufacturers and if these are the kind of sacrifices they have to make can you imagine the kind budget manufacturers make? To be honest, by avoiding these three bands you'd be doing yourself a disfavour as they all make crackling amps and are great value for money. As these are high end brands, their equipment are more sensitive to changes in cables and sources as can be expected...you wouldn't want a high end amp that doesn't show a change in dac or cdp and likewise I wouldn't like a high end amp that shows no change after cable upgrades. 

All the best,

Shafin

thanks but no thanks. I'd rather stick to solid basics than dubious "improvements". incidentaly the company which amp I'll buy next is nothing about audiophile BS but solely hi-quality engineering. in fact, they put a lot of effort in designing power supplies to their amps so that they are bullet proof to any possible mains adverse effect.

similar thing with my current amp. looks here may be deceiving because to many Pathos will look like the most effort went into designing the outside. but there's some solid engineering behind them as well. they don't cut corners. that's why they're rather pricey but sound great. I was playing some time ago with power cords on this amp - Chord Silverscreen. no change to sound whatsoever compared to basic stuff that came with it. and that's the way it should be. if I ever be buying a fancy power cord again it'll be for the looks only. and I'm certainly not buying an amp prone to changing a power cord... rolling on the floor laughing

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oldric_naubhoff wrote:

if I ever be buying a fancy power cord again it'll be for the looks only.

I once bought one just for that reason!  Good job really, as it did EDITED all for the sound.  doh!

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Craig M. wrote:

oldric_naubhoff wrote:

if I ever be buying a fancy power cord again it'll be for the looks only.

I once bought one just for that reason!  Good job really, as it did EDITED all for the sound.  doh!

That was down to expectation bias!  >)  Wink

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CnoEvil wrote:

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Covenanter wrote:

Singslinger wrote:

There's nothing to stir a vigorous debate in a hifi forum than talk of whether cables work eh? My take on all this is that if the cost of cable in question is not exorbitant relative to the cost of the kit, and if the listener hears a difference (even if it's imagined) then why not? In Shafesk's case the price of the cable was less than 5 % that of the amp, so I think it's entirely reasonable. Suppose someone was looking to buy an amp priced at £10,000 or more and the dealer strongly recommended a mains cable that cost say £200. In my experience, very few people would say no since they would want to wring the best performance from their amp and the cost of doing so in proportion to the amp is not over-the-top.

That must be right.  However £60 would buy me 3 or 4 reasonable bottles of wine and as I am perfectly happy with my hifi that seems a rather better investment.  Laughing

Chris

One man's cable is another man's wine! beauty, eh

Buy a  man some wine and he will be happy for a night; give him a m/c and give him pleasure for life.  Wink

Yup, I'm happier with a good, well-constructed m/c instead of wine (am more of a whisky man myself) but I guess to each his own. Smile

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Singslinger wrote:

Yup, I'm happier with a good, well-constructed m/c instead of wine (am more of a whisky man myself) but I guess to each his own. Smile

Which one do you use?

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