Got a mains cable, don't judge me before you hear what I have to say
So I got a mains cable from my brother who thought it didn't positively affect his system. I plugged it into my Cayin and there was no getting behind the fact that it made a difference. It was like someone added more power to my amp, I got more bass (which was welcome), more detail and the speakers were less "visible" in the soundstage. I previously needed to go to 12 o clock for loud listening but this positioon is around 11 now. I don't believe it either.
The next job was to add it to the Hegel, which already had an impressive stock mains cable. It gave the impression of lowering the amps volume but it was okay since it has an insane amount of power and you could never turn that volume know all the way. There was more silence too.
So using two different amplifiers I got two different results. The result could be what someone is after, the choseal reference mains cable costs about 60 and I think its definitely a keeper if you get the sort of effect I did with my Cayin. I would avoid it with very high end kit such as the Hegel which usually have good mains cables fitted to them. FWIW my brother used the mains cable in his gryphone, dynaudio and stream magic setup and found similar results to what I found with the Hegel.
Shafesk...consider yourself to be normal LOL.... 
Some would say you are lucky to be able to hear the difference....mainly to justify any expenditure incurred on your experience here...
Some others would call you unlucky as you may be sucked in to the world of cable upgrades more and more.....
Either way... enjoy the music...not the hifi...
I do consider myself to be lucky, a 60 pound upgrade is ok when you consider the amp is 1500 pounds, I would spend that on an interconnect but I haven't heard an interconnect to date that brings more power to the amp. I know you are a cable convert, having read some previous posts. Hope all is good with you.
Cheers,
Shafin
Shafesk, your "relvations" only made me stay well clear from Cayin gear. thx. (in fact, this applies to Hegel and Gryphon too).
if a piece of amp responds to a change of a power cable then there surely must be something fudamentally wrong with its power suplly section. not the best place to cut cost but definitely the most used.
Shafesk, your "relvations" only made me stay well clear from Cayin gear. thx. (in fact, this applies to Hegel and Gryphon too).
if a piece of amp responds to a change of a power cable then there surely must be something fudamentally wrong with its power suplly section. not the best place to cut cost but definitely the most used.
All the best,
Shafin
Which cable did you get?
The research Shunyata has done, suggests that it is to do with handling the sudden high peaks of power better: http://www.shunyata.com/Content/DTCD.html
Which cable did you get?
The research Shunyata has done, suggests that it is to do with handling the sudden high peaks of power better: http://www.shunyata.com/Content/DTCD.html
Which cable did you get?
The research Shunyata has done, suggests that it is to do with handling the sudden high peaks of power better: http://www.shunyata.com/Content/DTCD.html
This question was raised before (post No.2): http://www.whathifi.com/forum/av-receivers/has-my-mains-cable-ruined-my-...
Not sure if it convinces you, but it's the best I could do.......I'm still waiting for them to publish the results of their blind tests.
Not wishing to move this very polite and sensible thread into another boring and sometimes heated cable debate. Nice to read just personal experience. Just wonder why manufacturers and particularly high end, don't include a high end mains to do their products Max justice? Or do they?
Thanks for sharing your experience Shafesk. I think a £60 upgrade to a piece of gear costing £1500 is entirely reasonable and since you heard a difference, one that's well worth undertaking. Enjoy! 
I don't really get this, so how come miles of power line to get to your home can be bog standard copper but that last metre from the wall socket to your amp needs to be something special?
Not wishing to move this very polite and sensible thread into another boring and sometimes heated cable debate. Nice to read just personal experience. Just wonder why manufacturers and particularly high end, don't include a high end mains to do their products Max justice? Or do they?
It is fair point and at a guess I would say:
1. Cost
2. Choice ie.People who think they make a difference often have their favorite brand and are prepared to spend very different amounts
3. Conflict ie. Non believers would claim that it is a waste of money and just another way of ripping them off.
The easiest and least controversial thing to do, is put a cheap cord on and let people go their own way.
I don't really get this, so how come miles of power line to get to your home can be bog standard copper but that last metre from the wall socket to your amp needs to be something special?
Here is one explanation: http://www.monoandstereo.com/2011/03/power-cord-cannot-possibly-have-eff...
Also here: http://www.shunyata.com/Content/products-FAQ.html
I don't really get this, so how come miles of power line to get to your home can be bog standard copper but that last metre from the wall socket to your amp needs to be something special?
Here is one explanation: http://www.monoandstereo.com/2011/03/power-cord-cannot-possibly-have-eff...
Also here: http://www.shunyata.com/Content/products-FAQ.html
The most straight and direct explanation. Two thumbs up.
I don't really get this, so how come miles of power line to get to your home can be bog standard copper but that last metre from the wall socket to your amp needs to be something special?
Not only that but before it enters your amp it travels through a tiny piece of wire restriction called a fuse, so surely negates any benefit that goes before......
I don't really get this, so how come miles of power line to get to your home can be bog standard copper but that last metre from the wall socket to your amp needs to be something special?
Not only that but before it enters your amp it travels through a tiny piece of wire restriction called a fuse, so surely negates any benefit that goes before......
That's why upgrading the fuse also helps! 
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Shafesk...consider yourself to be normal LOL....
Some would say you are lucky to be able to hear the difference....mainly to justify any expenditure incurred on your experience here...
Some others would call you unlucky as you may be sucked in to the world of cable upgrades more and more.....
Either way... enjoy the music...not the hifi...
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