I got so used to scratches on some music that when I heard it without them it did not sound right, still did not like them.
'Back in the day' I'd buy a brand new TDK SA-X (or AD-X) C90 with every new LP. Within a play or two i'd have recorded the album (and maybe a couple of the best tracks onto a compilation tape as well).
Subsequently the cassette version would get played more and the LPs would only get used for a bit of 'serious listening' occasionally (back when I used to do 'serious listening' without having to laugh at the seriousness).
I never had Nakamichi grade cassette decks but I had a Sony WM-D6C 'Pro' Walkman and then a Yamaha KX-580 SE for many years. (The Yamaha was my last cassette deck between 1996 - 2007 and my older brother is still using it regularly in his system. It's a real trouper.)
Consequently, those of us regularly taping our LPs (whilst they were still new) kept our vinyl collections in better nick due to only occasional and careful use. Plus regular stylus cleaning, a carbon fibre brush, good alignment, intact styli replaced before worn out or damaged, correctly applied tracking force and properly stored records (with anti-stat sleeves) ensured clicks and pops were virtually non existent (and if they were found on a brand-new LP you took it straight back and got it exchanged).
Needless to say I have very little interest in the music I listened to in my teens, twenties and thirties (because my tastes have changed so much since) so there wasn't much (LPs or tapes) that I wanted to hang on to.
I sold the last 90 LPs to a local record shop very recently - after years of not being played - and there was nothing there that I missed. (I don't do nostalgia much.)
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As far as CDs vs streamers / computers goes, arguing over which is best in terms of features, tactility and basically what you prefer, is an unresolvable debate.
However, there is one worrying notion which has been mentioned in-passing a couple of times in this thread, and it's a rumour / belief which needs stamping out quicky, before someone starts to think there's some ounce of truth to it: CDs themselves will always inherrently sound better than rips of the same thereof, because it's not possible to get an accurate rip which sounds as good as the CD.
For the record (no pun intended), can we agree that this notion / idea / belief is COMPLETE AND UTTER BILLSHUT OF THE ABSOLUTE HIGHEST CALIBRE.
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CDs themselves will always inherrently sound better than rips of the same thereof, because it's not possible to get an accurate rip which sounds as good as the CD. For the record (no pun intended), can we agree that this notion / idea / belief is total and utter lobbox of the absolute highest order.
I strongly believe that a perfect rip, played by a good streamer, sounds better than a CDP of a similar value, playing a CD.. I have heard this in practice, where the cheapest Linn Streamer embarrased their fairly expensive CDP. They also thought this, as they stopped the production of CDPs.
At home I still have a Linn Karik/Numerik which is easily outperformed by my Linn Majik DS....even though it was more expensive in its day.
The reasons why a Streamer should sound better are quite logical.
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Indeed. Bit-perfect rips have the potential to sound better than their source CDs, not the other way round, for all the feasible reasons which have been said on this forum many times before.
Not literally I hope.
No I didn't bin it literally - a local oldish chap bought it - I even took it to his for a demo with his old Brio and Celection DL4 speakers - he was over the moon with it.
I am actually sold on a high end streamer tbh - Bet the Sneaky dunt alf sound good!
I dont buy cds much now so I will stick with what I have!
Reading your post seemed to (surprisingly) indicate the opposite......which was the cause of my comments.
lol! No, you misread me. there was one possibly two posts earlier in this thread (cba finding them) saying that CDs will always sound better than rips because you can't get a rip to ever sound as good. It wasn't picked-up at the time, but it needs to be, because it's utter ****
all good arguements; for and against.
But In my opinion, its all about the enjoyment and experience.
Yes, the availability to rip CD's or download/stream 24-bit Mastercopies is compelling but let's face it, it's not a simple process of getting a CD, plumping into your CD player and pressing play whilst drink a good glass of rioja.
As my computer is in a different room from my hi-fi, listening on the computer tends to be more of a background noise whilst surfing the 'net.
Whereas when I listen to music in the lounge using my CD player, I relax with a smile on my face. Same applies to listening to my iPOD Classic inserted into a dock attachment on my Yamaha amp.
I too like listening to CD's especially whilst reading the sleeves notes; yes you can do the same by looking up the artists biography on computer but it's not the same.
Both yield the same result ... bliss.
That's what music is all about ... enjoyment ...
Agreed. Currently, it's all about what you're most comfortable with, and enjoy the most.
I say 'currently'. You don't need to be Nostradamus to see that the writing's on the wall for CD, and it's only a matter of time before the major labels call time on it.
I'm already the only person I know in my circle of friends and family who still buys music on physical media, new or used.
And since I joined Spotify, even I've been buying less. Albums which I know in advance I'd probably play once or twice, shelve and re-listen to once every Preston Guild, get streamed from Spotify instead.
I sadly agree that the CD will be disappear same as the vinyl , it seems that while the Hi FI world is making a consistent improvement the music sources
are on a downgrade road ...
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I think the ripping of a CD apparently sounding better than the CD itself is totally irrelevent. It is all going to depend on what you play the CD on compared to what you are streaming it to / from. Too many variables and too many 'it's got to sound better' means they probably have a *rap CD player in the first place.
Not too sure on what quality dowloads you get from Spotify as I've not tried it yet.
CD's will not die out completely, just like SACD, until all music that is realeased is available as a high-resolution download.
Not unless we are all going to accept low-res MP3 as the future.
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