Theres no way digital catalogues are the way forward for all. Absolutely not. In fact certain 1st press CD's are so sought after as newer versions were cocked up over the years. Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms being a good example.
I'm aware that it's the chosen format for many, especially younger people. What we've got to remember is that that demographic, in general, care little for sound quality.
Unfortunately, In order to make digital music distribution financially viable high quality downloads will always be niche.
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The market may not give you the choice. A few old buffers posting on a HiFi website are not the target customers for mainstream music sales. My kids (all in their teens) buy music, but have never owned a CD player, and have no CDs.
It is possible that in the long run a few niche manufacturers may continue to press CDs, but unlike vinyl that still has a cult 'its analogue' following, CDs have no such claim and are just another digital delivery mechanism. My guess is that they go the way of the floppy disk, VHS tape, HDDVD and the Dodo.
Here in Holland there are many people who are back by vinyl, because of the bad soundquality of cd's (and thew ripped version of course). The loudness war have destroyed the soundquality.
I'm not claiming CD to be the best choice for everyone, merely saying it'll be around longer than many assume.
Kids are happy to listen to there mobiles, laptops and other devices via tinny speakers and think nothing of it. Simply because thats whats popular, does not mean it is superior.
As you say, a few old duffers arent going to change a thing. Although I'm 28, I do agree.
I'm off to have a coffee and pop on a Compact Disc.
Kids are happy to listen to there mobiles, laptops and other devices via tinny speakers and think nothing of it
Simply because thats whats popular, does not mean it is superior
Is that the only way to do it then? (Via 'tinny speakers'.)
Would I get away with generalising about CD users in a similar way? How about ...
"Housewives are happy to listen to cheap compilation disks on their £29.99 Tesco CD/radio kitchen portables or their rubbish Halfords car audios and think nothing of it."
Both generalisations (your real one and my made up one) are a bit true and both are contradicted by a spectrum of users, of all ages, using kit that varies between the tacky and the professional.
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Not sure thats true, why have sales of decent headphones soared? And better does mean it will sell more. I think the music industry will want to kill off cds and either have downloads and Blu-Ray audio/vinyl.
Vynal... a great format and experiencing somewhat of a revival, but at 3 times the price of a CD, why does it have more chance of survival than the silver disc?
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Well its survived so far and as you say its more popular now than a few years ago, even I who has not bought vinyl for 30 years am considering going back to it for certain albums. As for records companies I presume its good because as you say it costs us x3 the price, I think they will want everyone to switch to Blu-Ray Audio or high res. downloads, nothing like selling the same music many times over.
One advantage that BD audio may have is you can get about 8 albums on one disc.
I will always buy CD's and vinyl while i can, you get the best of both worlds, a physical copy and a digital one if your willing to rip them, and as mentioned above there are some really good older masters out there on CD and vinyl which arent available to download (Barry Diament Led Zep masters absolutely destroy the newer remasters ). At the moment i only use my rips when listening at my PC with headphones because i'm yet to get a streamer, once i eventually setup a NAS and get a streamer the only thinkg I'll be using my CD's for is ripping to the PC, that way my CD's will stay in awesome condition and ill always have them as a backup.
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BD Audio (like SACD) has the 'advantage' of surround sound mixes also if you want to get into that.
As for CDs and files, although I use both methods, I think there is something to be said for physical cataloguing and 'physical browsing' with the physical blocking you can do with CDs. It's nice to have a small set of favourites staring down at you from their cases' spines on a shelf. With lots of CDs some like the physical but more physical-space saving method of using large wallet case storage, and get rid of the plastic cases they came with. Smaller but less thin media cards and USB sticks would have been an interesting distribution method for physical cataloguing, but again I think there is something to be said for a CD's flat thin shape with a nice area for sizeable labels and artwork to notice.
There's also something to be said for the physical feeding/involvement mechanism and also the way a music block (e.g. an album, and that album only) is set as a limitation of the amount of music listened to. In all three cases these physical things are done to some extent, but CDs sit much closer to the physical involvement of vinyl than files.
What about the new Blu-Ray Audio format?
So long as the producers insist on implementations that require a screen, the worst of all worlds, since you have the selection overhead *and* no ripping option
Pretty sure that Blu Ray audio has specifically been designed so that you can play them without having to have the screen on.
Blu ray audio discs do indeed not require a screen.
I stream files through my Oppo which does require a screen to do so.
However I would not ditch my CD player as, although that function can be performed by the Oppo, I find my CD player to be of better quality. The Oppo is reserved for SACD / DVD playback.
That maybe so but but your cdp costs £2,000? and how much is the DAC? So that hardly surprising, if you only had the Oppo would you buy a £500 cdp?
Not too sure where you get the figures from but I did not pay anything like that amount for the CDP and DAC combined. I do not think they are made any more.
The answer to your question is probably not unless the £500 CD player was significantly better than the Oppo.
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This thread is puzzling. Why not have all formats?
I could not find much apart from a US review which had the cdp as $2,500.
Lets suppose you were running a music distribution company. Would you:
a: Support all formats, regardless of the number of unit sales and profitability, or
b: Focus on the format which had the highest sales and/or generated the highest levels ot profitability
The problem for us is that most people are not bothered about sound quality, they are happy to buy low res. mp3, the companies are happy to sell that as its cheap for them and they charge around £0.70 a track which compared to many cds is expensive, also there is no used market. The Blu-Ray Audio format is quite interesting as its higher qualityand higher capacity but is about mp3 price, in fact album like the Stones GRRR with 50 tracks is cheaper at £9.99.
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