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I recently made a few purchases to add to my collection, including another amplifier and have subsequently found myself bidding on cyrus components, including cd players and PSX-Rs. I am also conemplating some new speakers.

Not quite sure why as I was/am perfectly happy with my current set-up. It also adds to the box count and cost.

So I am contemplating changing to ADM 9RS's. Not because I think they will necesseraly be much better than what I have (I dont know and only had the first generation 9's at my place a couple of times) but when I count cost up of the additional cyrus components (plus speakers) it will exceed the cost of the AVI's. May I add that I perfectly like the cyrus sound, I had a system from the manufacturer before.

It seems like a neat solution (AVI) and will take some of the incentive to change for the sake of it away.

It will be a couple of months before I can afford a pair but I am inclined to go that way at the moment. The only thing I will have to purchase until then is a decent phono stage as I'm not willing to give up vinyl.

Thoughts welcome.

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I predict 100+ posts in this thread by Sunday evening...

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drummerman wrote:

...So I am contemplating changing to ADM 9RS's...

Why don't you give Ash a visit and have a listen to the new ADM9 RSS's?

It'd be interesting to hear what you think of them as I've only heard the old ADM9.1T versions myself.

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Just make sure you get a pair in a finish that does not clash with whaterver you a wearing and you will be fine.... cheer

 

Try and be as sure as you can that you are done 'fiddling', 'plug and play' is not for everyone.

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steve_1979 wrote:

I predict 100+ posts in this thread by Sunday evening...

 

Better send Ash some paracetamol on the back of DM's thread and mine too in that case Steve.  More free advertising for the men in sheds!   :

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RE: Going active ... ?

Question:

If the ADM9's are so great and accurate, why so many different versions?

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Same reason our washing powders have been 'new and improved' so many times since the 1950's.

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FennerMachine wrote:

Question:

If the ADM9's are so great and accurate, why so many different versions?

I remember once reading a review of a Roksan Caspian cdp in WHF, somewhere in the review it stated that the cdp had undergone quite a few revisions over the years but had kept the same name and it seemed that Roksan hadn't advertised the fact, they'd just got on and done it.  Same for AVI (maybe) but they do advertise the fact - I know that the everything about them is different in the latest model to the earlier ones, well, maybe not the amps, but different dac/crossover/mid-bass driver/tweeter/even the acoustic foam inside.  Anyway, check the new ones out DM, they are quite a bit better than the older versions, imo, more bass, greater clarity, smoother, airier treble, all that stuff.

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So the newer ADM9's are better than the old ones?

So the bass, clarity and so forth can be improved upon?

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FennerMachine wrote:

Question:

If the ADM9's are so great and accurate, why so many different versions?

Only 4 proper versions in 16 years. ADM9, ADM9.1, ADM9T, ADM9T RS.

The only real confusion is the latest RS models, having the the Scanspeak tweeter available as an option (the RSS) muddied the waters somewhat, upgrades to the RS's original tweeter rendered the the upgrade largely pointless considering the extra cost.

This is from the AVI website.

 

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So six versions then. And six years (the 9 was introduced in 2007).

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John Duncan wrote:
So six versions then. And six years (the 9 was introduced in 2007).

That's nothing – some companies launch a new model, blitz every forum they can find promoting it as the best thing ever, flog it to a bunch of mug punters, then suddenly and unnacountably discontinue it seemingly within months, just to start shouting all over again about their next genius product.

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John Duncan wrote:
So six versions then. And six years (the 9 was introduced in 2007).

Quite right, no idea where I got 16 years from....... banging head against wall

 

I guess this makes Ash a bit of a fiddler then, you can tell him........ silenced

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And these towns all look the same,

We just pass the time in our hotel room

And wander 'round backstage,

Till the lights come up, and we hear that crowd,

And we remember why we came.

Jackson Browne

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spiny norman wrote:

John Duncan wrote:
So six versions then. And six years (the 9 was introduced in 2007).

That's nothing – some companies launch a new model, blitz every forum they can find promoting it as the best thing ever, flog it to a bunch of mug punters, then suddenly and unnacountably discontinue it seemingly within months, just to start shouting all over again about their next genius product.

Just to add that if it does not sell as well as expected it ends up in Richers at half price so that more 'mug punters' can get a bargain.

A very well established marketing strategy, just ask Wharfedale, Marantz and the rest...... Wink

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And these towns all look the same,

We just pass the time in our hotel room

And wander 'round backstage,

Till the lights come up, and we hear that crowd,

And we remember why we came.

Jackson Browne

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davedotco wrote:

I guess this makes Ash a bit of a fiddler then, you can tell him........ silenced

Companies should always strive for continuous improvement.

If they can do so without talking EDITED, even better.

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spiny norman wrote:

John Duncan wrote:
So six versions then. And six years (the 9 was introduced in 2007).

That's nothing – some companies launch a new model, blitz every forum they can find promoting it as the best thing ever, flog it to a bunch of mug punters, then suddenly and unnacountably discontinue it seemingly within months, just to start shouting all over again about their next genius product.

 

In fairness to AVI, this is no more or less than many other Audio/Visual companies.  Did Sony (or Panasonic, LG, Samsung, etc, etc) really need another lineup of Blu-ray players each year?  Does Marantz need to bring out a new integrated amp every 18 months or so?  I don't see anything different - beyond the route to market - that AVI do from the competition.  

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