+1 for Neat Motive 2 as well
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Hello and welcome to the forum Alexei23.
I agree with the suggestions for active speakers. I find they often have better dynamic range and clarity than equivalently priced passive hifi speakers and amp combinations. If you can visit a pro-audio shop and have a listen to some active speakers to see if they suit you tastes/needs.
There are loads to choose from around the £700 price bracket and any at that price with an 8" bass driver will be able to give you all the bass you could want.
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Generally speaking, when it comes to inexpensive active speakers, I have tried a lot (friends in the trade).
If you want serious bass the Mackie HR monitors outperform anything under £1.2k.
The HR 624-2 are currently available about £700 if you look round. For normal size, untreated rooms they are enough, 'only' a 6 inch bass driver but the whole of the back panal is one big ABR, the bass is immense. Virtually zero bling though, if that is what you want look elsewhere.
It is not just me that thinks this, check out.....
The Essence ST is a good card, it will drive the Mackies well untill you can afford a serious outboard dac/preamp.
We do so many shows in a row,
And these towns all look the same,
We just pass the time in our hotel room
And wander 'round backstage,
Till the lights come up, and we hear that crowd,
And we remember why we came.
Big claim there that you're hard pressed to back up Dave, Genelec, AVI, and probably a few more have actives around the £1200 mark. Genelec would be my pick but the Mackie's are decent speakers.
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That's ddc, big claims not always though through. The Neat Motives with a decent amp will blow away any of the actives mentioned so far - excepting can't comment on the AVI, which I've not heard.
Unfortunately, apart from their forward balance, active speakers generally require some form of preamp, so aren't as flexible as their passive cousins. They're not automatically better in sound quality either, which most forget.. Personally I think the one box, unitiXXX solution is the way of the future, actives are a bit of a dead end.
If you're willing to look a little bigger....... these would be my choices for deep punchy bass:
Obviously you need a lot of space for these:
Celestion A3 - recently on ebay buy it now around 800 I think (bid started at 500, not sure how high it went)
Cerwin vega xls 215/cls215.... before you dismiss them (assuming you don't care about looks) read some reviews from audiophile places
This is a more "modern" floorstander (small woofers )
Dali Ikon 6 Mk2 I would audition too, I listened to deadmau5 through it and was very impressed.
This may well start a huge war, which I don't intend it (DISCLAIMER: OP please listen before you buy)...... but I'm not a fan of active monitor speakers for loud/deep bass at this price level and I will explain why...
At university a LOT of students have active speakers the most popular iteration being krk rokits (I know they are cheap btw) but some people also had some by adam audio etc. Anyway when they are pushed a bit eg in a party they don't hold up very well because there is only so much a single 6/8 inch bass driver can output bass from a small enclosure, so if you want deep punchy bass they will do it at low-moderate levels. For comparison I had a pair of cheap wharfedale valdus 500's which are universally considered to be generally awful (you only have to look at the think chipboard construction to be convinced), but they sound much cleaner at higher volumes than active monitor speakers, delivered far punchier bass etc.
The one exception I've heard in your price bracket is this:
It's designed more for playback to clients rather than analytical listening so it has a bit of a "hifi" ear-pleasing response, you may like it, you may not (admittadly I only listened to pop dance music through it - only option in the shop)
In all honesty, ddc is probably quite correct. The 624s produce prodigious bass, certainly they appear to have more than the BM5As and the ADM9Ts that I have also heard.
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TBH if I wanted big bass for under the £800 mark I wouldn't look at either Genelec, AVI or Dynaudio. All great speakers with good clarity but without a sub they all only have an average amount of deep bass unless partnered with a sub.
For deep bass under £800 I'd be looking at the Mackie speakers mentioned above or something with a large 8" woofer.
Exactly the point steve, I made no claim that the Mackies are the best all round monitor in their price range but the anti-active activists rarely read the posts and just steam in anyway.
Th OPs request was for sub £800 speakers that will really deliver power and punch on all kinds of heavy music. he expressed a preference for floorstanders which I really can't help with but did not rule out standmounts hence the recomendations.
Unless you have a very big or very well damped (treated) room the 824-2 actually have too much bass, hence the plug for the 624-2.
The 9T was always reckoned to be light on bass, but there are many ways to produce it. If the OP wanted fun big bass, then I'd suggest he gets a pair of Cerwin Vegas, but speaker positioning plays a part too, as does personal preference, and the actives I've heard in recent years have all delivered good bass and that'd include Genelec.
I believe the current AVI 9.1 speaker, the RS or RSS delivers much better bass than earlier models. Something for the OP to consider...
Except of course that it is massively over budget.
The OP has a budget of £800, an Essence St soundcard, which if memory serves is pretty decent and the Mackies connect directly to that.
As always there are many ways to solve this particular issue, but inexpensive high output passive speakers, Cerwin Vega, JBL, Klipsch etc tend to lack both refinement and bass extension at this price level.
The Mackies though are considered accurate enough to be more than competitive in the budget pro-monitor market, so they are clean, low distortion and, within context, reasonably accurate.
Their prodigeous bass output is also well known, plenty of bass and mid bass punch and extension to below 50hz, it is hard to think of a better solution at the price.
Yes Dave, we know you like them....
And I can read thread titles but I think you mentioned "best speakers under £1200" as an arbitrary remark hence my comments.
To the OP: Q Acoustics 2050i if no one has mentioned those are well reviewed too. I recall Noel Keywood waxing lyrical about their sound in his Hi-Fi World review a while back. The bass is apparently subterranean allied to a big dynamic soundstage that is huge which sounds like they might tick your boxes. No surprise given their size, but they're apparently refined when required. Big speakers though so you'll need the room, but they'll withstand a few amp upgrades too. £450.
RS, I really do not want to get into another argument but you really should read the posts properly before making 'confrontational' replys.
I did not say that I liked the Mackies, nor did I say that they were the "best speaker under £1200".
Firstly the Mackies have too much bass for my taste, I prefer a lighter balance for domestic listening, but they should suit the OPs requirement well.
Secondly I actually said this,
"If you want serious bass the Mackie HR monitors outperform anything under £1.2k."
This is a specific context, I have not heard any speaker, active or passive, that can deliver such powerful bass at this price point. The combination of depth, punch and shear power along with exceptional control is beyond anything I have heard.
This does not make them the bast speaker under £1200 by the way.
Semantics Dave. If you'd heard every combination then you'd be right were it true, but you've not. You made an absolute statement and that's what I challenged.
Pots and kettles re: confrontational statements by the way.
RS. Look I am trying hard here.
The statement I made was not absolute but qualified by the part of the sentance that said "if you want serious bass", plain english I thought.
Similarly my other statements about the Mackies were qualified by statements such as "anything I have heard" among others, no absolutes there either. (Though I have heard many if not most of the active studio type speakers in this price range)
Willfully miss-interpreting qualified statements as absolutes is a pretty poor argument in my view.
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