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Sorry Chebby, Clearly I have struck a nerve, and that wasn't intended. I didn't intend to trivialize or be dismissive of digital photography. I own what I consider to be a decent-enough DSLR, and it serves its purpose, but for me, still, digital photography is just not where it's at. But I am a quickly-diminishing minority, so don't listen to me lol.

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I take streaming to mean playing music stored on a PC via a  router or listening to internet radio again through the router. I may be wrong but don't consider sticking a hard drive directly into the NP30 as streaming, as I wouldn't consider playing a cd as streaming from my cd player, connected to my amp.

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my own music is stored on a hard drive attached to my NP30 so don't actually stream my flac files.

No? What would you call it then?

 

 

I take streaming to mean playing music stored on a PC via a  router or listening to internet radio again through the router. I may be wrong but don't consider sticking a hard drive directly into the NP30 as streaming, as I wouldn't consider playing a cd as streaming from my cd player, connected to my amp.

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MajorFubar wrote:
Sorry Chebby, Clearly I have struck a nerve, and that wasn't intended. I didn't intend to trivialize or be dismissive of digital photography. I own what I consider to be a decent-enough DSLR, and it serves its purpose, but for me, still, digital photography is just not where it's at. But I am a quickly-diminishing minority, so don't listen to me lol.

 

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A camera, like hifi, is merely a tool.

You say that - and on one level I agree - but on the other hand ...

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... oh momma! (And no, I am not a collector and they'd all get used as much as I possibly could.)

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mikeparker59 wrote:

I take streaming to mean playing music stored on a PC via a  router or listening to internet radio again through the router. I may be wrong but don't consider sticking a hard drive directly into the NP30 as streaming, as I wouldn't consider playing a cd as streaming from my cd player, connected to my amp.

Although that is a technically correct interpretation of the term streaming, the HiFi world seems to apply to more general (and possibly less correct) terminology of calling any device that converts a digital music file to a PCM stream and feeds that to a DAC (internal or external) a "streamer". Mostly because lack of generally recognized term for "digital music player".

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mikeparker59 wrote:

I take streaming to mean playing music stored on a PC via a  router or listening to internet radio again through the router. I may be wrong but don't consider sticking a hard drive directly into the NP30 as streaming, as I wouldn't consider playing a cd as streaming from my cd player, connected to my amp.

Although that is a technically correct interpretation of the term streaming, the HiFi world seems to apply to more general (and possibly less correct) terminology of calling any device that converts a digital music file to a PCM stream and feeds that to a DAC (internal or external) a "streamer". Mostly because lack of generally recognized term for "digital music player".

Semantics and pedantics. As I explained to Lhc, a CD player also does internal streaming because the transport has to stream the data to the internal DAC, or external if applicable.

The only difference is 6 years ago no-one used the word 'streaming' for it, or even for playing back audio locally from a PC.  All of us are correct, but in this context I side with mikeparker59.

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manicm wrote:

TimothyRias wrote:

mikeparker59 wrote:

I take streaming to mean playing music stored on a PC via a  router or listening to internet radio again through the router. I may be wrong but don't consider sticking a hard drive directly into the NP30 as streaming, as I wouldn't consider playing a cd as streaming from my cd player, connected to my amp.

Although that is a technically correct interpretation of the term streaming, the HiFi world seems to apply to more general (and possibly less correct) terminology of calling any device that converts a digital music file to a PCM stream and feeds that to a DAC (internal or external) a "streamer". Mostly because lack of generally recognized term for "digital music player".

Semantics and pedantics. As I explained to Lhc, a CD player also does internal streaming because the transport has to stream the data to the internal DAC, or external if applicable.

If I could be bothered I might argue that it is "transporting" the data to the internal DAC, hence a DAC-less CD player begin referred to as a "transport".

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The only difference is 6 years ago no-one used the word 'streaming' for it, or even for playing back audio locally from a PC.  All of us are correct, but in this context I side with mikeparker59.

I don't think there's any "official" term for any of this digital media malarky, regardless of whether it uses a network or not, that's kind of why I asked mikeparker59 what he would call it.

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Lhc - I will quote myself on a CDP - 'the transport has to stream the data to the internal DAC' - and pure CD transports have been around for eons.

While technically correct, as TimothyRias put it, anything digital 'streams'. However, since no-one used the term even for seperate CD transports and DACs, or even for simply playing audio from a PC hard drive 10 years ago, I, like mikeparker, will be pedantic, semantic and argumentative and will reserve the term streaming for playing digital audio from a networked source  :poke:  >)

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Lhc - I will quote myself on a CDP - the transport has to stream the data to the internal DAC - and pure CD transports have been around for eons.
I know that's what you said, I quoted you saying it, I don't know what you're trying to achieve by repeating it though?
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While technically correct, since no-one used the term ... for simply playing audio from a PC hard drive 10 years ago, I, like mikeparker, will be pedantic, semantic and argumentative and will reserve the term streaming for playing digital audio from a networked source
You're changing the argument, nobody mentioned a PC playing music from its own hard drive, my original comment referred to an NP30 digital audio player (which is perfectly capable of playing from a network) playing from an attached hard drive. I would still regard that as streaming from the hard drive to the player, it just isn't using the network to do it.
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The first time I recall the term streaming being used was in relation to video coming via the internet , so have always , as I said maybe incorrectly,considered that in streaming the source of the file being  played was remote from the device playing it back, as opposed to being stored on a local drive attached to or part of the playback equipment, hence my saying that I don't consider files on a hard drive directly attached to my NP30 as being streamed.

What would I call it, I don't know maybe reading the files off the hard drive?

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