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I see Devialet give their power rating into 6ohm and can't find out what it is into 8 or 4.  Any idea?

I've seen these figures quoted (not sure where) which would seem about right:

Dev 120: 90W into 8 Ohms, 180W into 4 Ohms

Dev 200: 150W into 8 Ohms, 300W into 4 Ohms

They are famously good at driving tricky loads because of their extremely low output impedance.

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I see Devialet give their power rating into 6ohm and can't find out what it is into 8 or 4.  Any idea?

Yes, that's annoying, innit? Can't tell for the higher models, but the 120 was measured in a recent HiFi Choice review (June 2014 -- house rules won't let me give you the link, but just Google 'Hifichoice - Devialet'), and they state 75 W/8 Ohm and 150 W/4 Ohm.

They give a better explanation of SAM than on the Devialet website too, btw.

As for listening to internet radio thru a Devialet: the Qute looks like overkill IMO; I would get a Sonos:Connect for the purpose.

And yes, the 120 + LS50 is a special combo indeed! Audition at your own risk!  Wink

 

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And yes, the 120 + LS50 is a special combo indeed! Audition at your own risk!  Wink

Hey, Doc, it's been a while. How are things? Is the new house moving forward? (Maybe I shouldn't ask ...)

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I see Devialet give their power rating into 6ohm and can't find out what it is into 8 or 4.  Any idea?

Yes, that's annoying, innit? Can't tell for the higher models, but the 120 was measured in a recent HiFi Choice review (June 2014 -- house rules won't let me give you the link, but just Google 'Hifichoice - Devialet'), and they state 75 W/8 Ohm and 150 W/4 Ohm.

They give a better explanation of SAM than on the Devialet website too, btw.

As for listening to internet radio thru a Devialet: the Qute looks like overkill IMO; I would get a Sonos:Connect for the purpose.

And yes, the 120 + LS50 is a special combo indeed! Audition at your own risk!  Wink

 

 

Thanks for the heads up on power output. 

On the UQ2 (and NAP100 LS50), I already own these so that money has already flown the coup.  I may sell the NAP but will keep the rest.

 

The search for HIFI***** and Devialet doesn't turn up that article for me.  My google must be broken!

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And yes, the 120 + LS50 is a special combo indeed! Audition at your own risk!  Wink

Hey, Doc, it's been a while. How are things? Is the new house moving forward? (Maybe I shouldn't ask ...)

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The search for HIFI***** and Devialet doesn't turn up that article for me.  My google must be broken!

maybe add 'Atohm' in your search (that's the speakers in the system)

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DocG wrote:

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And yes, the 120 + LS50 is a special combo indeed! Audition at your own risk!  Wink

Hey, Doc, it's been a while. How are things? Is the new house moving forward? (Maybe I shouldn't ask ...)

Crazy

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Won't be for this year... But maybe next year, who knows?*dash1*

sorry to hear that: never was an emoticon more apt ...

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And finally the Rega RP10

And finally the Rega RP10 Arrived!!! Its paired with a Devialet 200, and it is a winnig team.

Pic: (no comments *pleasantry*)

It is actually being fed directly to the Phono Preamp of the Dev. I also got a Rega Aria preamp for testing, but when connected I only get one channel, dont know if I have messed some conection here. or I have just been suplied a defective unit (please help me here if you can matt). Anyway the RP10 is the BEST source I have listened to, it is making me listen to parts of the songs I never suspected it where there, And with the Dev 200 is a winnig team, even in my room and with my speakers Drinks

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And finally the Rega RP10 Arrived!!! Its paired with a Devialet 200, and it is a winnig team.

Pic: (no comments *pleasantry*)

 

It is actually being fed directly to the Phono Preamp of the Dev. I also got a Rega Aria preamp for testing, but when connected I only get one channel, dont know if I have messed some conection here. or I have just been suplied a defective unit (please help me here if you can matt). Anyway the RP10 is the BEST source I have listened to, it is making me listen to parts of the songs I never suspected it where there, And with the Dev 200 is a winnig team, even in my room and with my speakers Drinks

I cannot imagine adding anyone's pre-pre amp would be better than going direct into the Dev. Great system!

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Krorghar wrote:

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And finally the Rega RP10 Arrived!!! Its paired with a Devialet 200, and it is a winnig team.

Pic: (no comments *pleasantry*)

 

It is actually being fed directly to the Phono Preamp of the Dev. I also got a Rega Aria preamp for testing, but when connected I only get one channel, dont know if I have messed some conection here. or I have just been suplied a defective unit (please help me here if you can matt). Anyway the RP10 is the BEST source I have listened to, it is making me listen to parts of the songs I never suspected it where there, And with the Dev 200 is a winnig team, even in my room and with my speakers Drinks

Looks superb! - and I'm sure sounds superb too...

I'm looking to get a Devialet 200 soon. - What speakers are you using?

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I'm actually using a pair of

I'm actually using a pair of Boston Acoustics M350. These are not "high end" speakers, in fact they are not in consonance with the cost of the rest of the equipment, but to my ears, in my problematic room (full of glass cabinets and reflective surfaces), and for the kind of music I use to play (pop/rock of the 80's) . They were the ones that sounded better. And have listened to several other (supossedly) superior brand of speakers, like Focal, Sonus Faber and B&W.

Anyway I'm not fully pleased with them, and have to listen to other model's, Matt have sugested some KEF, and I will check them soon (I hope)

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Krorghar wrote:

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I'm actually using a pair of Boston Acoustics M350. These are not "high end" speakers, in fact they are not in consonance with the cost of the rest of the equipment, but to my ears, in my problematic room (full of glass cabinets and reflective surfaces), and for the kind of music I use to play (pop/rock of the 80's) . They were the ones that sounded better. And have listened to several other (supossedly) superior brand of speakers, like Focal, Sonus Faber and B&W.

Anyway I'm not fully pleased with them, and have to listen to other model's, Matt have sugested some KEF, and I will check them soon (I hope)

 

Interesting.... I heard the Dev 200 with my Focal 1008Be's recently and was very pleased. I'm told they're going to get the SAM treatment too and this will be available in September. I also heard a pair of Focal Utopia's and the combination was amazing. Then the dealer turned on SAM for them..... incredible difference - they seemed to totally disappear. - Now I've really been spoilt! Shok

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U mean the focal Utopias

U mean the focal Utopias sounded worse with the SAM on?

Anyway when SAM is installed for your speakers, it also installs a new control from 0 to 100% to adjust the SAM effect. So you can pass on SAM if you want to.

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Krorghar wrote:

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U mean the focal Utopias sounded worse with the SAM on?

Anyway when SAM is installed for your speakers, it also installs a new control from 0 to 100% to adjust the SAM effect. So you can pass on SAM if you want to.

Not at all. With SAM on, the effect from the Utopias was remarkable. The sound wasn't coming out of boxes, it just hung in mid air. - I can't wait to see what it does with my 1008Be's. I'm spoilt because Mrs Loop would not look favourably on some new Utopias.....

(maybe next year...)

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With SAM on, the effect from the Utopias was remarkable. The sound wasn't coming out of boxes, it just hung in mid air. - I can't wait to see what it does with my 1008Be's. 

As I understand it, the SAM-effect is most noticeable with smaller speakers (like my 120 - LS50 combo), so my guess is that the change with the 1008Bes will be massive compared to what SAM does to the Utopias...

Just as an example: the HiFiChoice review I referred to earlier on (120 + GT1). The Atohm GT1 speakers have a -6dB low frequency point of 60 Hz on their own; with SAM doing its magic, that went below 20 Hz! surprise Be prepared!

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Anyway when SAM is installed for your speakers, it also installs a new control from 0 to 100% to adjust the SAM effect. So you can pass on SAM if you want to.

Yes, though in a pc Devialet's Thierry Massoubre told me that to him the dial didn't really make sense; he said they might drop the feature. IMO, using the 0 - 100% dial for adjusting the bass extension (while preserving the rest of the processing) would be nice, though. Like when space is at a premium...

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