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Could you please reccomend some speakers that will fit the profile, the budget is not as big (as I won't sell the amp) so I would say around $300 and I am very open to the used models.

It's a tricky price point - there are so many choices especially in the US, which is where I assume you are. The Boston A26s are only $200 brand new in the US! (That's right.) You could buy those speakers to go with your Yamaha amp and you might never look back. You can do better, though.

There is a pair of KEF Q300s on eBay for around $300 - I sold a pair of these to a friend with a Yamaha amp and it sounds great. They have metal tweeters but certainly are not bright (the treble is restrained and it's best feature is it's midbass). If you didn't have a sub this would be a good rec but I am not sure they are a good fit with the sub as much of their design brief is devoted to making one unnecessary.

I think you should do some hunting on this one. Your amp's abilities are only the tip of the hifi iceberg but it is nonetheless a perfectly competent, clean amp with excellent detail. I have - as you can see from my sig - acquired quite a collection of hifi stuff, much of it through the used market at a fraction of list. The key to it is patience. If you could find a steal price on a pair of ProAc Studio series, or some Totems, you'd have quite a little system. The problem is that they don't come around very often and you need to wait it out until you find something really good ($500 would be a very interesting budget).

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My source is Sound Blaster Xi-fi smth, I am not really sure, I got it when I bought pc from a friend and so far it's sounds ok. I just got access to money, so I am building my rig slowly.

Keep your eyes open for a DAC while you are poking around eBay. Going from a sound card to an external DAC is one of the great, shockingly audible early upgrades. Don't miss this. I've had my Benchmark for over ten years, and when I got my hands on the Cambridge DACMagic for my office system I had low expectations. I didn't pay much for it and it's nowhere near the class of the Benchmark. Despite all of this mental bias against it, I still found the improvement in sound when I plugged it into my office computer to be jaw-dropping (the computer fed, at the time, a NAD 326Bee and KEF Q300s).

You are absolutely correct to build 'your rig' slowly! It's the only way to go - not just as pointed out above for used gear. Any audiophile will tell you, their system is never more fun that when they have just made an upgrade. Spreading these upgrades out, over years, and making each individual upgrade a major one (rather than buying a 'system' and then some years late, buying another one), means more upgrades, more enjoyment, and eventually, a far better system, since by buying the bits one at a time, you end up with higher-end stuff.

One more tip for following my approach: used hifi is not only online. Plenty of dealers stock used gear, often very high quality, and they will let you listen to it, guarantee it, and repair it. It's more expensive but a nice middle-risk approach.

Sometimes when people advise buying used on these forums, they apologise, since we generally assume that a healthy hifi industry is dependent on people continuing to buy new stuff. I make no such apologies. One of the reasons that good gear can get such high prices is its residual value. A manufacturer that does not appreciate and encourage a strong second-hand market for its range is building throwaway products. A good used market supports high prices and thus high margins and healthy companies that can continue to push the envelope.

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BigH wrote:

I don't think you will get a Naim Nait 5 for £200, there is one not working that is already £211, most working ones seem to be £300-£400.

 

That's great news actually since I need to sell a lot of this stuff. Last time I checked I seem to remember it was lower - I didn't think I could get much for this amp.

Not sure I will ever be able to sell it though. For years it was my only amp and I never really loved it. I've since gone on a mad upgrade rush but actually have come to appreciate the Nait 5 now, after the fact. Every time I test a speaker I am always surprised by the venom with which this little 45W amp spews out music. It is far from perfect, I was right about that. But it is remarkable.

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BigH wrote:

Sounds like you do want warm.

 

As for speakers I would avoid metal tweeters which can be harsh (bright).

 

Can you get Wharfedale 121s for $300.

Actually I am living in Holland and we don't have 100 series yet. Only 10s. Whould you still reccomend them?

 

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HAve not heard myself but they won the WhatHifi group test that is in current edition so worth hearing. If you are in Holland why are you using $s?

You must hear them first, I lot depends on you, the music and the room.

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Cause I expect people here to be from US so I make it easier for them to understand my budget.

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kaudmeter wrote:

Cause I expect people here to be from US so I make it easier for them to understand my budget.

This is a UK based forum.

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My bad.

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You can just tell us your budget in Euros, & we can help accordingly.

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Yes UK hifi magazine.

 

Not sure what is available in Holland, you may want to see and then come back with some questions. If you can push the budget upto £500 that will give you far more choice. 

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