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RE: Dali Zensor 3

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Do you think they can be placed close (10 inch) to the back wall?

I've just measured where mine are, and they are almost exactly 10 inches from the back wall.    The manual actually suggests placing them right up against the wall but I decided not to because if I do the front plane will be behind the front plane of the TV that sits in between them.  At 10 inches they sound great.  No boom at all.  Of course, rooms do differ and your room might not behave in the same way.

 

Can you hang the Zensor 3 speakers on the wall like the Lektor 2's or are they too heavy? My Lektor 2's have a little hook built into the cabinet, seems a better design than the Monitor Audio wall fitting system on the BX series. I would worry the Zensor 3s might be too bass heavy up against the wall although I'd love a pair to try. Still happy with my Lektors in my room.

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I've just set a friend up with some Zensor 1s, and I'm impressed. 

Richer's have some Zensor 3s in and I may well buy a pair today... I shall report back later!

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RE: Dali Zensor 3

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Do you think they can be placed close (10 inch) to the back wall?

I've just measured where mine are, and they are almost exactly 10 inches from the back wall.    The manual actually suggests placing them right up against the wall but I decided not to because if I do the front plane will be behind the front plane of the TV that sits in between them.  At 10 inches they sound great.  No boom at all.  Of course, rooms do differ and your room might not behave in the same way.

 

Can you hang the Zensor 3 speakers on the wall like the Lektor 2's or are they too heavy? My Lektor 2's have a little hook built into the cabinet, seems a better design than the Monitor Audio wall fitting system on the BX series. I would worry the Zensor 3s might be too bass heavy up against the wall although I'd love a pair to try. Still happy with my Lektors in my room.

No hook on the Zensor 3s.  You might find the front ported Lektor 2s are still the better choice for your room and placement.

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I actually think the Dali

I actually think the Dali Lektor range is more impressive than the Zensors.
Still not a patch on the current Q Acoustics range though.

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I actually think the Dali Lektor range is more impressive than the Zensors. Still not a patch on the current Q Acoustics range though.

I disagree.  The Zensor 3s are a good step up from the QA 2020i, excellent though they are.  I would also say the Zensor 3s are more complete sounding than the Lektors, but being a larger speaker with a bigger mid/bass driver they do need a little more space than the Lektors.

Ultimately we are talking about 3 excellent affordable speaker designs here and each will suit different environments.

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RE: I actually think the Dali

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I actually think the Dali Lektor range is more impressive than the Zensors. Still not a patch on the current Q Acoustics range though.

I disagree.  The Zensor 3s are a good step up from the QA 2020i, excellent though they are.  I would also say the Zensor 3s are more complete sounding than the Lektors, but being a larger speaker with a bigger mid/bass driver they do need a little more space than the Lektors.

Ultimately we are talking about 3 excellent affordable speaker designs here and each will suit different environments.

Sorry to disagree Matthew, but to my ears  the Q acoustics are far more natural sounding than the Dali range. A really well designed speaker. I guess life would be boring if we all agreed.  Smile

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However I'm sure we would

However I'm sure we would agree on the Denon amp being brilliant, and just as good as the Rotel and Marantz offerings in the same class.

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Hi Um,

No problem with disagreeing!! As I said all three are excellent affordable speaker designs and each will suit different rooms and tastes.  Certainly, if Dali hadn't bought out the Zensor 3s, I would still have the 2020i.  I do prefer the 2020i to the Zensor 1 but I like the extra scale that the Zensor 3s bring and, with a better balance between frequency extremes than the Zensor 1, the Zensor 3s sound more natural than the smaller Dali.  Different horses for different courses.  I'd rather have any of them over the Monitor Audio BX2s or the B&W 685s, both of which get very tiring to listen to over any length of time.

Yes, agree totally about the Denon amp.  It is every bit as good as anything else at the price.  Sounds excellent with both the QA and Dali speakers.  I think you and I have both got relatively inexpensive systems that punch way above their price.  I really don't think the WHFS&V review 'gets' the Denon right as I find it capable of immense subtelty and deftness of touch when required.  The CD player is excellent too.

I think the only change I'm likely to make in the near future is to sort out the network side of my system and move on from the SBT.  The forthcoming Sony USB DAC looks very interesting as does the new NAD DAC.  I was thinking about the new NAD D3020 amp/DAC but every time I listen to music on my system I ask myself why I would want to change the amp!

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RE: I actually think the Dali

Um wrote:
I actually think the Dali Lektor range is more impressive than the Zensors. Still not a patch on the current Q Acoustics range though.

I had the Dali Zensor 1 speakers for over a year and they are excellent speakers. When I bought the q acoustics 2020i speakers I couldn't believe the improvement. They sounded better in every way. Really, really good speakers.

But please q acoustics.............next time speaker terminals on the back !!! Please  Smile

Haven't heard the Zensor 3 speakers though. A review in the next What Hifi would be great.

 

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Very interested in these, as

Very interested in these, as I'm determined to replace my MS 902i's in the next few months, and the Zensor 3's are at the price point I'm looking at. Slight concern about their suitability for partnering with my NAD 326BEE amp though, as some comments suggest the speakers are big on bass but not so much on treble detail - which wouldn't be a great match for the NAD.

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RE: However I'm sure we would

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Hi Um,

No problem with disagreeing!! As I said all three are excellent affordable speaker designs and each will suit different rooms and tastes.  Certainly, if Dali hadn't bought out the Zensor 3s, I would still have the 2020i.  I do prefer the 2020i to the Zensor 1 but I like the extra scale that the Zensor 3s bring and, with a better balance between frequency extremes than the Zensor 1, the Zensor 3s sound more natural than the smaller Dali.  Different horses for different courses.  I'd rather have any of them over the Monitor Audio BX2s or the B&W 685s, both of which get very tiring to listen to over any length of time.

Yes, agree totally about the Denon amp.  It is every bit as good as anything else at the price.  Sounds excellent with both the QA and Dali speakers.  I think you and I have both got relatively inexpensive systems that punch way above their price.  I really don't think the WHFS&V review 'gets' the Denon right as I find it capable of immense subtelty and deftness of touch when required.  The CD player is excellent too.

I think the only change I'm likely to make in the near future is to sort out the network side of my system and move on from the SBT.  The forthcoming Sony USB DAC looks very interesting as does the new NAD DAC.  I was thinking about the new NAD D3020 amp/DAC but every time I listen to music on my system I ask myself why I would want to change the amp!

I have an old dedicated laptop for music, Apple lossless files for my CD's which is about 250gb, and Spotify premium. I use the Spotify interface all the time which allows all the local files( iTunes apple lossless) to played through it. 

Really simple. One interface into good dac > into good amp > good speakers.

 

 

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How do you find the V90DAC with the Denon Um?

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Very interested in these, as I'm determined to replace my MS 902i's in the next few months, and the Zensor 3's are at the price point I'm looking at. Slight concern about their suitability for partnering with my NAD 326BEE amp though, as some comments suggest the speakers are big on bass but not so much on treble detail - which wouldn't be a great match for the NAD.

You really need to audition.  I don't find them at all heavy in the bass and certainly less liable to boom in those frequencies than my MS902is can in my room.  One thing I have found repeatedly with different equipment, however, is that the Chord Carnival speaker cable can have a thickening effect on the sound and seems to favour the bass frequencies over the treble ones.  I find the QED much more balanced sounding.

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RE: However I'm sure we would

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How do you find the V90DAC with the Denon Um?

i use the USB input. Incredibly detailed ( sometimes. Spookily so). Very open wide sound. 

I'm not sure spending more than £200 will get you better sound quality. 

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Well, done it. Got them!

I fully agree with Matthewpiano's analysis, but only after a couple of hours' use. Straight from the box the bass was abysmal- the lowest octaves of Rudimental's Waiting all Night honked and resonated loudly, while the rest of the bass was either plummy or strangely absent.  Mid and top are very good, and imaging shows promise with a bit more use.

Watched the GP through them (you know what I mean!) this afternoon, which gave them a bit of a workout, and I've now got Roisin Murphy absolutely singing out. Everything has tightened up somewhat.

They're good. And getting better...

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