We have already bought a marantz 5008 and would also like to use zensor 1s and a vokal for home cinema. However, there is also a focus on music. I could add a sub if that helped. From an aesthetic point of view we could integrate the zensor 5 best into the room, followed by the 1.
the room is 3,5m x 3,5m (that is the listening area is. The actual room is twice that size, extending to the right of the listening area). In the listening area a couch will be placed in the middle nod some shelves in the back that would also be home to the zensor 1. In the front we have a tv rack that is about 2.20m wide, I could place floorstanders to the left and right of that or zensor 3s on stands or put zensor 1s right at the edges of that rack.
The 3s and 5s both need the best part of 25-30cm clearance from the rear wall to sound their best. The 3s (despite having a larger bass driver than the 5s) are a bit more quick-footed than the 5s but go very low as well. The 1s are faster sounding than either of them but don't go that low.
Dali speakers always pair well with Marantz electronics so any of the 3 should work very well. I don't think your room is overly small either, as long as you can accommodate the 25-30cm clearance from the rear wall.. The 5s are only compact floorstanders and sound more controlled than most of their competition. If they will suit the room better then I would go with them. They will certainly give you good performance across the frequency range with both music and films, and I doubt you would need a sub of any kind.
If you need to place you speakers much closer to the rear wall, go with the 1s.
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Thabk you very much!!! Could you explain what it means when a speaker sounds "faster", please? Thank you so much!
Henry Winter wrote:Thabk you very much!!! Could you explain what it means when a speaker sounds "faster", please? Thank you so much!
Really it is an outcome of there being less weight, so you tend to focus more on the rhythmic aspects of the bass rather than the visceral impact of it. Of course, nothing is really 'faster' but the reduced low-down frequency response gives that impression.
Hope that helps!
I am also big Dali fan!
At the beginning of september I bought brand new Ikon 6 mk2 (front) and Zensor 1 as rear.
I have some theoretical questions:
- will I get surround sound improvements if I will change existing rear speakers (Zensor 1) with Zensor 3? Is it worth to change?
- what would be the best distance for Ikon 6 from rear and also side wall?
- does Inakustik LS-602 4x1.87mm2 front speaker cable (biamp) is best choice for Ikon 6? What would be the best cross-sectional area (mm2) of front speaker cables?
- does rear speakers need the same length of cables or could be different (4-5m difference)
- what would be the best cross-sectional area (mm2) for rear speakers? Zensor 1 or Zensor 3?
Big thanks in advance!
Hi there, i am thinking to buy dali zensor 3 and inwant to ask you will it be a problem if they are close to the wall about 2-3 inch.(5cm). There is no other way to put them in my home unless they are more than 4 meters away from each others.
Alextraz wrote:Hi there, i am thinking to buy dali zensor 3 and inwant to ask you will it be a problem if they are close to the wall about 2-3 inch.(5cm). There is no other way to put them in my home unless they are more than 4 meters away from each others.
I don't think they are the right speakers for you. They do need a little space to achieve their best. I have mine 30cm from the rear wall. You would be better to find a pre-owned pair of Dali Ikon 1s, which work very well straight up against a rear wall.
Also well worth considering some Lektor 1s or 2s which are front ported and work well closer to boundaries.
I've never heard a bad Dali speaker yet.
Hi there, I also love my pair of zensor 3. I use them with a Marantz PM6004 amp and Custom Design RS 302 stands. They are truly amazing speakers for the money and would not change them for anything at the moment.
Just want to ask which speaker will be better choice MA bx2 or Dali ikon1 mk2(the price diffrence is about 150 pounds both new). Will be placed next to walls in a room about 33 square meters but my music sector is half of that. They will be used mostly for music and time to time movies.
Alextraz wrote:Just want to ask which speaker will be better choice MA bx2 or Dali ikon1 mk2(the price diffrence is about 150 pounds both new). Will be placed next to walls in a room about 33 square meters but my music sector is half of that. They will be used mostly for music and time to time movies.
Personally I'd go for the Ikon 1s, no question.
Alextraz wrote:Just want to ask which speaker will be better choice MA bx2 or Dali ikon1 mk2(the price diffrence is about 150 pounds both new). Will be placed next to walls in a room about 33 square meters but my music sector is half of that. They will be used mostly for music and time to time movies.Personally I'd go for the Ikon 1s, no question.
Without a doubt.
So as I've said earlier I did compare today Zensor's 3 with our Kef's Q300 and Marantz M-CR510.
I did buy Rotel RA-11 and Q300's last year spring time, didn't like sound of it for a minute, returned Rotel, bought PM6004 with Arcam rDac Massive improvement but without tone controls employed sound was flat and lifeless.. till I've heard Zensor's today..
Night [ Kef Q300] and day [ Dali Zensor 3] difference... it's not subtle change of sound, it was dramatic.. more energy, more music, big smile on our face... Zensors are simply the speakers more suited to our all in one Marantz.
Kef's needs definitely better amplification. I don't understand why What's Hi Fi recommended Q300 with PM6004 as this combo isn't good at all.
... money wise..
RA-11 + Q300 = £950 ... horrible sound
PM6004 + rDac + Q300 = £1030 ... sounds good but tone controls in constant use
M-CR510 + Q300 = £820 [ I paid £370 for M-CR510 when it first came out] ... sound same as one above
M-CR510 + Zensor 3 = £470 [ with free speaker cable, price as for today ] ... the cheapest and sounds best of all
this comparision shows how important speakers/ amp matching is..
... so Zensors are on order, Kef's are for sale
edit: Kef's were outstanding with Arcam FMJ A18 and Arcam irDac but it was smiply cheaper to buy £299 speakers rather than £1050 amp/ dac
I remember when I demoed the Marantz CD6003 it was with the matching amp and the KEF Q300. It was my first listen to real hifi and it was such an anticlimax which I also attributed to the speakers. Used same electronics with my MA RX1 and remember thinking that this is much more like what hifi should sound like! KEFs sounded dry, flat and uninvolving. Sure WHF generally are a good guide to combos but will always demo first as this showed me how individual's opinions differ. Never discount 4 or even 3 star reviews until heard yourself! Sorry, more of an aside really.
I actually had the Arcam A18 with KEF Q300s for a while and, though it was much better than the A18 with B&W 686s, I still didn't get on with the combination.
Personally I feel the system I have now is far more rewarding.
I've just ordered some Zensor 3s from Creative Audio, now back in stock for £239. :cheer:
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