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michael hoy
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Hi,

I need some advice as to which Cyrus Streamer to purchase.

Currently have a Cyrus 8 XPd QX amp and a PSX-R power supply, but not sure which streamer will best match.

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RE: Cyrus Stream

Do you need one??

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RE: Cyrus Stream

No he doesn't, IMO.  But the way to find out is to find a friendly Cyrus dealer who'll lend you one and compare it to the SBT plugged into your XPd's optical in, and see whether it's worth the money.

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RE: Cyrus Stream

Don't waste your money on Cyrus Stream buy yourself either Squeezebox Touch or sonos much better and flexible option then Cyrus wihtout any compromise on SQ, I am saying this as Cyrus owner.

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RE: Cyrus Stream

Zubkabera wrote:

buy yourself either Squeezebox Touch

Got one already...

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RE: Cyrus Stream

John Duncan wrote:

Zubkabera wrote:

buy yourself either Squeezebox Touch

Got one already...

And the rest!

 

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RE: Cyrus Stream

Yes, 'inter alia' doesn't quite cover it really does it Smile

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RE: Cyrus Stream

I think the best choice for you would be the Stream X V2.  Make sure its the V2 as its the only one to handle 24 bit 192khz files.

You have the XPd QX which is Cyrus's 2nd best DAC.  The DAC X is better.

If you use the coax digiital connections you should have the best SQ.

I would recomend saving the difference between the Stream X and the Stream XP and use it to fund an upgrade to a DAC XP sometime in the future.  Mind you there are some good deals around at the moment for ex-demp DAC XP's

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RE: Cyrus Stream

+1 Stream X2 to answer the OP's question

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RE: Cyrus Stream

The sound quality difference from the integrated top the pre/power is massive in my opinion.. I'd agree with others get the New stream xp2 qx or whatever it's called.. I already had pre/power and although it was very nice sound I LOVED the extra mid/low end punch from the Naim streamer for some of my music.. I liked the Cyrus streamer tho and would be a perfect step for you to go pre/power

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RE: Cyrus Stream

Thanks for the recommendations, I have only recently aquired the Cyrus and squeezebox equipment.

I am not a big fan of the squeezebox and would prefer to add a Cyrus streamer to the system.

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Bedroom - Sony KDL-40W2000 + Archos 7 streaming from Windows Home Server 2011, Altec Lansing inAir 5000.

Dining Room - Sonos S5.

Music - HP Proliant Server running WHS 2011 ¦ streaming FLAC to Sonos ZP90 and OPPO 95 via SC-LX85.

Hi Fi - Cyrus 8 XPd QX amp ¦ Cyrus PSX-R power supply acting as Pre Amp ¦ Quad 909 Power Amp ¦ Speakers - Spendor A3 ¦ Logitech Squeezebox Touch upgrade by Fidelity Audio ¦ power supply upgrade by Mains Cables R Us ¦ Power Plant Premier mains regenerator.

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RE: Cyrus Stream

If you wanted to keep the amp and source sections seperate as i did then try the new stream x2.. I'd also recommend tryin the naim ND5 XS as i was blown away by it.. They are both extremely well made and high sound quality pices of kit for the money. It will just come down to personal taste..

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RE: Cyrus Stream

Lateral thinking, but how about a Mac Mini feeding the XPd? About half the price of the X2, maybe a bit more if you get Pure Music or Amarra on it as well. Or go for a dedicated Windows machine (to save any anti-Apple comments)

I use a dedicated Mac Mini  / Pure into an Arcam rDac (and then Ayre AX7e and Harbeth 7/2's). I haven't tried a dedicated streamer so don't know how it would compare sound quality wise. But I do know the front end beats the Meridian 508 that I used to use, which itself was no slouch.

How about WHF do a shootout between dedicated streamers and the PC/Dac option? After all the streamer is essentially a computer with the extraneous bits stripped out; how much of a difference does it really make? I suspect not much, if any at all, but the truth would be in listening. I've suggested this before and had a few people agreeing; are the hi-fi manufacturers confident enough in the superiority of streamers to submit to the test?! And who mentioned advertising revenues (waits for clip round the ear from moderatorohhh sure )

 

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RE: Cyrus Stream

I've got a mac mini now and that was my setup.. Optical into xpd qx. There's been endless arguments on here about how can it be different if it's bit perfect etc.. I was stunned by the difference.. I can't tell you what causes it etc pre DAC but the difference is extremly noticable.. For me anyway.. Maybe try a home dem and see what you think.. It certainly would be a cheap/free solution if you already have a computer for the time being if nothing else.. Plus mac mini's are awesome Laughing out loud

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RE: Cyrus Stream

I already have a server with all my music ripped to it, the idea is not to require a computer anywhere near the system, but to stream the music to it.

My Server is in the loft area running headless and I use my PC (office area) to rip the music direct to the server.

The system is in an entirely different room and currently runs wirelessly. I have a very strong wireless setup and do not have any issues with it.

 

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Bedroom - Sony KDL-40W2000 + Archos 7 streaming from Windows Home Server 2011, Altec Lansing inAir 5000.

Dining Room - Sonos S5.

Music - HP Proliant Server running WHS 2011 ¦ streaming FLAC to Sonos ZP90 and OPPO 95 via SC-LX85.

Hi Fi - Cyrus 8 XPd QX amp ¦ Cyrus PSX-R power supply acting as Pre Amp ¦ Quad 909 Power Amp ¦ Speakers - Spendor A3 ¦ Logitech Squeezebox Touch upgrade by Fidelity Audio ¦ power supply upgrade by Mains Cables R Us ¦ Power Plant Premier mains regenerator.

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RE: Cyrus Stream

philipjohnwright wrote:

Lateral thinking, but how about a Mac Mini feeding the XPd? About half the price of the X2, maybe a bit more if you get Pure Music or Amarra on it as well. Or go for a dedicated Windows machine (to save any anti-Apple comments)

I use a dedicated Mac Mini  / Pure into an Arcam rDac (and then Ayre AX7e and Harbeth 7/2's). I haven't tried a dedicated streamer so don't know how it would compare sound quality wise. But I do know the front end beats the Meridian 508 that I used to use, which itself was no slouch.

How about WHF do a shootout between dedicated streamers and the PC/Dac option? After all the streamer is essentially a computer with the extraneous bits stripped out; how much of a difference does it really make? I suspect not much, if any at all, but the truth would be in listening. I've suggested this before and had a few people agreeing; are the hi-fi manufacturers confident enough in the superiority of streamers to submit to the test?! And who mentioned advertising revenues (waits for clip round the ear from moderatorohhh sure )

 

Yet more lateral thinking.  

What about Sonos?  May be worth trialling the Cyrus streamer and sonos against each other?  I have a Cyrus ans Sonos combination and it's fantastic.  

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