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What HiFi is not as rose tinted as the other two magazines might be, which is why we´re nagging for a third opinion.  :wave:

 

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Lol, love it. Ken Kessler giving a rose tinted review, yeah right. If tis c**p he dosnt mess around. Neither does Bamford/Keywood etc etc.

 

 

Correct, WHF have the most relevant review rating system. WHF does not seem to consider the price tag, in as much as other magazines do. Best information for the ordinary public. Period.

Got a sneaky feeling we may have our wires crossed a tad here. 

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I was thinking that too Laughing

 

 

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Any updates?
Has anyone any experience with the new creek evolution 50A?
Any comparisons with other amps in demo'ing?
Any owners of the new creek?
In the absence of a what hifi review, maybe the forum could provide experiences in the meantime atleast?

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Yes I did manage to hear the A50, hardly any dealers in my area which is surprising as is made in this area. I thouht it was very good, very detailed but fairly neutral, seemed quite powerful for its 50W rating, I preferred it to the Arcam which seemed too refined for my taste but I must say these demos were at different dealers and that is the problem finding a dealer that carries these amps to compare. Of the amps I heard its my favourite. 

If you can't find  a dealer near you, you can get one on loan from Creek for 14 days.

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Stereophile now got an August review of the Creek on the net.

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No surprise about what that says!

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I notice on the Creek website that the new Ambit FM/AM Tuner module has been released, which can be used in the 50A amp and the 100A too.

 

First I've heard about a 100A model.

 

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New HiFi Choice edition tests Creek 50A against several sharp competitors!

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"We are currently awaiting the loading of our complement of small lemon-soaked paper napkins for your comfort, refreshment and hygiene during the journey."

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New HiFi Choice edition tests Creek 50A against several sharp competitors!

 

HiFi Choice like Creek dont they?  The 50A came tops in the Group Test Integrated Amps £600-£800, up against the Arcam A19, NAD C356BEE, Pioneer A70, Rotel RA-12, and TEAC AI-100. To be fair to HFC all the amps tested got decent reviews and all have their merits.

 

Andrew Everard seems to like it with the Ambit tuner module too.

 

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DIB wrote:

NHL wrote:

New HiFi Choice edition tests Creek 50A against several sharp competitors!

 

HiFi Choice like Creek dont they?  The 50A came tops in the Group Test Integrated Amps £600-£800, up against the Arcam A19, NAD C356BEE, Pioneer A70, Rotel RA-12, and TEAC AI-100. To be fair to HFC all the amps tested got decent reviews and all have their merits.

 

Andrew Everard seems to like it with the Ambit tuner module too.

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Not sure about they like Creek but they liked the 50A, so does every other review Ive seen, pity WHF did not get one in to review. Strange as soon as Andrew leaves he gets to review one.

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DIB wrote:

NHL wrote:

New HiFi Choice edition tests Creek 50A against several sharp competitors!

 

HiFi Choice like Creek dont they?  The 50A came tops in the Group Test Integrated Amps £600-£800, up against the Arcam A19, NAD C356BEE, Pioneer A70, Rotel RA-12, and TEAC AI-100. To be fair to HFC all the amps tested got decent reviews and all have their merits.

 

Andrew Everard seems to like it with the Ambit tuner module too.

 

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Since it is some kind of blind test, then the result is actually quite interesting.

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I do not have access to the Hi-Fi Choice review but in the past their methodology has been what I would describe as a 'blind group test'. Some years ago I took part in a few such tests and this is how they went.

A small group of 'experienced' listeners (the usual industry suspects) listen to the items without knowing specifically which they are although they are probably aware of what items are under test.

In this case, each amplifier is played in sequence but not individually identified, followed by a seemingly randon replaying of the amps under test, the listeners usually know that they are listening to amplifier A or B or C but not what they are. Direct comparisons are made, but not usually in sufficient numbers to be scientifically vald. 

The group listens together and discusses what they hear so that, in effect, a sort of consensus opinion is reached, though to be fair, if someone disagrees strongly with the consensus it is made clear in the report.

I do not know if the tests are still done in this way but if they are somewhat similar I would tend to give them rather more credence than the usual sighted, hands on tests that are the norm. On the other hand it is worth pointing out that group testing in this way is not remotely scientific in the way that 'proper' double blind or ABX testing is, but personally, from my experience, I find them quite enlightening.

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BigH wrote:
Strange as soon as Andrew leaves he gets to review one.

Hardly strange: his review says he was chasing a sample for ages, presumably for a review in Gramaphone

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And now, HiFi World November ed, got a review. Most informative review yet. +1 to Martin Pipe!

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