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nopiano wrote:

Meanwhile, happily listening to properly bi-wired speakers - hence no jumpers, save for the wooly one I'm wearing!

Surely you are old enough to be in a cardigan.  shifty

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RE: Correct wiring of jumper cables

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nopiano wrote:

Meanwhile, happily listening to properly bi-wired speakers - hence no jumpers, save for the wooly one I'm wearing!

Surely you are old enough to be in a cardigan.  shifty

Well, I'm really wearing a gilet, but that didn't make a wisecrack!  How's the back, anyway, you old ****?   silenced

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Supernik wrote:

Come on CnoEvil.

Am I hired again yet?

I will take your request under advisement..........though I do have a certain sympathy, as Shadders has a way of waiting in the wings, primed and ready to (politely) shoot any dubious theory clean out of the water. 

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Well, I'm really wearing a gilet, but that didn't make a wisecrack!  How's the back, anyway, you old ****?   silenced

Progress is slower than I would like, but it's progress none the less.......thank you for asking.....

(He says, as he dips a biscuit in his tea while sitting in his supportive "nursing home chair", wearing "old man" wooly bootees and adjusting the thermal blanket over his knees!!)  Tongue

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RE: Correct wiring of jumper cables

CnoEvil wrote:

nopiano wrote:

Well, I'm really wearing a gilet, but that didn't make a wisecrack!  How's the back, anyway, you old ****?   silenced

Progress is slower than I would like, but it's progress none the less.......thank you for asking.....

(He says, as he dips a biscuit in his tea while sitting in his supportive "nursing home chair", wearing "old man" wooly bootees and adjusting the thermal blanket over his knees!!)  Tongue

Sorry it's taking so long.  At least you are becoming even more invaluable here, where it's good to see new and old names alike.  Take care.

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RE: Correct wiring of jumper cables

Has anyone heard or compared this amp recently? Going to book a demo for 3 weekends time for a friend probably with B&W 685's.. I have a feeling I may end up loving it and sell up all my high end gear  rockin out

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RE: Correct wiring of jumper cables

Can't argue with that. Your response contains no "probably's". 

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Supernik wrote:

Regardless of the length of a wave there is still a different distance 2 travel. Shadders, your reply seams to suggest that equal length speaker cables are pointless. 

Hi,

Equal speaker lengths are not pointless, if you are spending £200 per metre, no point in buying more than needed.

Some speaker cables comes as a pair of conductors so you have to buy in equal lengths.

The distance from amplifier output to speaker terminals is the same for both conductors perhaps with a margin of error of 1% - so why buy more for one terminal than the other ?

Regards,

Shadders.

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Posted on the wrong thread...  doh!

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Must admit I was wondering where you were going with that one!!

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RE: Correct wiring of jumper cables

Lo Fi<strong> wrote:
I have seen this wiring idea on the Chord Company website. Positive to treble and negative to bass and of course jumpers but have not tried it yet myself, but will when I get new cables.

Exactly.  I quote:

What connections on the back of the speaker should I connect my single wire speaker cable to? As a general rule, the treble connections are usually reckoned to produce better sound quality than the bass connections. However, in many cases, we find that a diagonal connection produces the most musically coherent sound. To do this, connect the positive (+) speaker cable to the positive treble connection and the negative speaker cable (-) to the negative bass connection. So in effect, the cable is connected diagonally. This is quick, easy and fun to do and the results are easy to hear.

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Hi galone, without a dissertation acknowledged by all world scientists as being sound, people will see this as at best marketing hype, or at worst the devils work trying to send our mortal souls to hell. 

I wonder if all the detractors have tried the asymmetric method or are just unwilling to try because science hasn't 100% proved the theory. 

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Wow...there is a very strong echo in this thread. Wink

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HI

No your not the only one! Been on this forum nearly 5 years I am astonished that this has not come up before .

I have had my BX2s bi-wired and single wired with links made up of Maplins OFC cable with + to bottom red - to bottom black, tried + to treble - to bass YES there is a real difference even detected by my philistine OH!

The main differences are 1 tighter bass . 2 better seperation with instruments more clearly defined in their own "space".

wierd!

 

 

 

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crang wrote:

HI

No your not the only one! Been on this forum nearly 5 years I am astonished that this has not come up before .

I have had my BX2s bi-wired and single wired with links made up of Maplins OFC cable with + to bottom red - to bottom black, tried + to treble - to bass YES there is a real difference even detected by my philistine OH!

The main differences are 1 tighter bass . 2 better seperation with instruments more clearly defined in their own "space".

wierd!

 

 

 

woohoo!   party time!   beauty, eh   cheer

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