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Am I missing the point here?

If I conect one speaker cable to the red or plus terminal on the "treble" side of the crossover and the other to the black on the "bass" side of the crossover, BUT I then jumper red-to-red and black-to-black, does it actually make any difference?

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Apparently...or so some folks advise...but best give it a go yourself and see if you can hear a difference. Wink

 

That is what I am planning to do as soon as I sort myself out some jumpers...now same cable as the main cabling or a stock set of Chords or the like...puzzled

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Ahhh I get it now.... I'll try it when I can be bothered to get some jumpers.. I don't think it's ridiculous to think having shielded cable made of the same material (inductance, capacitance etc) as the speaker cable linking them superior to a lump of plated unshielded metal. 

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BigColz wrote:

Ahhh I get it now.... I'll try it when I can be bothered to get some jumpers.. I don't think it's ridiculous to think having shielded cable made of the same material (inductance, capacitance etc) as the speaker cable linking them superior to a lump of plated unshielded metal. 

Quie right BigColz. There are some people who say they have heard an improvement without actually changing out the 'lump of plated unshielded metal', just connecting the way described. Try it and see, that way it will not cost a penny.

It is also interesting to see that many of the 'higher end' speaker manufacturers (particularly the French ones funnily enough) are moving towards using actual cable (the same as they use to internally wire their speakers) in place of bent bits of plated sheet / rods as the means of interconnecting.

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BigColz wrote:

Ahhh I get it now.... I'll try it when I can be bothered to get some jumpers.. I don't think it's ridiculous to think having shielded cable made of the same material (inductance, capacitance etc) as the speaker cable linking them superior to a lump of plated unshielded metal. 

Quie right BigColz. There are some people who say they have heard an improvement without actually changing out the 'lump of plated unshielded metal', just connecting the way described. Try it and see, that way it will not cost a penny.

It is also interesting to see that many of the 'higher end' speaker manufacturers (particularly the French ones funnily enough) are moving towards using actual cable (the same as they use to internally wire their speakers) in place of bent bits of plated sheet / rods as the means of interconnecting.

 

Yeah I might try it and see.. Then try jumpers too. I could just cut a small length off my standard clear basic CA speaker cable on my lounge setup to try I suppose but to be fair i'd happily pay £25 (terminated and delivered) for the TQ blue jumpers with the nice connectors etc.. If nothing else just because i'm OCD and like things be plug in/out and look tidy  excellent!

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BigColz wrote:

Alears wrote:

BigColz wrote:

Ahhh I get it now.... I'll try it when I can be bothered to get some jumpers.. I don't think it's ridiculous to think having shielded cable made of the same material (inductance, capacitance etc) as the speaker cable linking them superior to a lump of plated unshielded metal. 

Quie right BigColz. There are some people who say they have heard an improvement without actually changing out the 'lump of plated unshielded metal', just connecting the way described. Try it and see, that way it will not cost a penny.

It is also interesting to see that many of the 'higher end' speaker manufacturers (particularly the French ones funnily enough) are moving towards using actual cable (the same as they use to internally wire their speakers) in place of bent bits of plated sheet / rods as the means of interconnecting.

 

Yeah I might try it and see.. Then try jumpers too. I could just cut a small length off my standard clear basic CA speaker cable on my lounge setup to try I suppose but to be fair i'd happily pay £25 (terminated and delivered) for the TQ blue jumpers with the nice connectors etc.. If nothing else just because i'm OCD and like things be plug in/out and look tidy  excellent!

Surely if you are OCD that would be plug in/out, in/out again, and again, and look tidy! excellent!

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Alears wrote:

BigColz wrote:

Alears wrote:

BigColz wrote:

Ahhh I get it now.... I'll try it when I can be bothered to get some jumpers.. I don't think it's ridiculous to think having shielded cable made of the same material (inductance, capacitance etc) as the speaker cable linking them superior to a lump of plated unshielded metal. 

Quie right BigColz. There are some people who say they have heard an improvement without actually changing out the 'lump of plated unshielded metal', just connecting the way described. Try it and see, that way it will not cost a penny.

It is also interesting to see that many of the 'higher end' speaker manufacturers (particularly the French ones funnily enough) are moving towards using actual cable (the same as they use to internally wire their speakers) in place of bent bits of plated sheet / rods as the means of interconnecting.

 

Yeah I might try it and see.. Then try jumpers too. I could just cut a small length off my standard clear basic CA speaker cable on my lounge setup to try I suppose but to be fair i'd happily pay £25 (terminated and delivered) for the TQ blue jumpers with the nice connectors etc.. If nothing else just because i'm OCD and like things be plug in/out and look tidy  excellent!

Surely if you are OCD that would be plug in/out, in/out again, and again, and look tidy! excellent!

 

Ha very true but sound quality is prority number one and if a lot of people say they hear benefits then I'll take the risk.. If i don't hear a difference i'll sell it and loose £5-£10. Less than it costs in petrol to get to my local hifi shop.. Even more when I get the M3 lol  beauty, eh

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BigColz wrote:

Alears wrote:

BigColz wrote:

Ahhh I get it now.... I'll try it when I can be bothered to get some jumpers.. I don't think it's ridiculous to think having shielded cable made of the same material (inductance, capacitance etc) as the speaker cable linking them superior to a lump of plated unshielded metal. 

Quie right BigColz. There are some people who say they have heard an improvement without actually changing out the 'lump of plated unshielded metal', just connecting the way described. Try it and see, that way it will not cost a penny.

It is also interesting to see that many of the 'higher end' speaker manufacturers (particularly the French ones funnily enough) are moving towards using actual cable (the same as they use to internally wire their speakers) in place of bent bits of plated sheet / rods as the means of interconnecting.

 

Yeah I might try it and see.. Then try jumpers too. I could just cut a small length off my standard clear basic CA speaker cable on my lounge setup to try I suppose but to be fair i'd happily pay £25 (terminated and delivered) for the TQ blue jumpers with the nice connectors etc.. If nothing else just because i'm OCD and like things be plug in/out and look tidy  excellent!

The hifi dealer in Aberdeen I used to use (and plan on using again) - no names but it's the one on Holburn Street - would normally offer to make up a set of jumpers from the same cable free of charge if you bought the extra foot or so of cable (along with the main runs, of course) for free.

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Benedict_Arnold wrote:

BigColz wrote:

Alears wrote:

BigColz wrote:

Ahhh I get it now.... I'll try it when I can be bothered to get some jumpers.. I don't think it's ridiculous to think having shielded cable made of the same material (inductance, capacitance etc) as the speaker cable linking them superior to a lump of plated unshielded metal. 

Quie right BigColz. There are some people who say they have heard an improvement without actually changing out the 'lump of plated unshielded metal', just connecting the way described. Try it and see, that way it will not cost a penny.

It is also interesting to see that many of the 'higher end' speaker manufacturers (particularly the French ones funnily enough) are moving towards using actual cable (the same as they use to internally wire their speakers) in place of bent bits of plated sheet / rods as the means of interconnecting.

 

Yeah I might try it and see.. Then try jumpers too. I could just cut a small length off my standard clear basic CA speaker cable on my lounge setup to try I suppose but to be fair i'd happily pay £25 (terminated and delivered) for the TQ blue jumpers with the nice connectors etc.. If nothing else just because i'm OCD and like things be plug in/out and look tidy  excellent!

The hifi dealer in Aberdeen I used to use (and plan on using again) - no names but it's the one on Holburn Street - would normally offer to make up a set of jumpers from the same cable free of charge if you bought the extra foot or so of cable (along with the main runs, of course) for free.

 

That's good.. TQ black aren't off the reel cables they come terminated from TQ and to buy matching jumpers are (overpriced at) £85  puzzled 

 

Blues are only £25 so i'll prob get them at some point..

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BigColz wrote:

 

That's good.. TQ black aren't off the reel cables they come terminated from TQ and to buy matching jumpers are (overpriced at) £85  puzzled 

 

Blues are only £25 so i'll prob get them at some point..

 

Might have some round here reaching for their Bibles, holy water and a stake to burn me at, but you could always consider buying an extra cable (or pair) and having one cut up and reterminated....

 

I'll get me coat.....

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Scrub that - I've just checked the prices on these cables shocked

Suddenly 85 quid for a set of jumpers doesn't seem so bad.

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Benedict_Arnold wrote:

Scrub that - I've just checked the prices on these cables shocked

Suddenly 85 quid for a set of jumpers doesn't seem so bad.

 

I got 2 x 2m TQ Black terminated for £150 so it's over half the price again for jumpers which IMO is overpriced.. I had Chord Epic before which is the same price per metre and the Epic jumpers are £40 which is more reasonable.. £25 blues will be fine.. 

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I only glanced at a certain Glaswegian hifi dealer's website and a 3 metre pair there was over 280 quid.

Looked at Tellurium's own website and the amount of techno-babble there turned me right off.  I am open to correction though.  A set of Chord Odyssey 4's, 3 metres long, will set you back 240 quid...

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Benedict_Arnold wrote:

I only glanced at a certain Glaswegian hifi dealer's website and a 3 metre pair there was over 280 quid.

Looked at Tellurium's own website and the amount of techno-babble there turned me right off.  I am open to correction though.  A set of Chord Odyssey 4's, 3 metres long, will set you back 240 quid...

 

Yeah each to there own.. Doesn't bother me if people think i've wasted money etc.. I have Chord Epic 3m at a really good price and if I sell will break even, i heard the TQ black can tone down top end end produce more balanced sound which it seems to have done slightly although I need to do more tests and it's hard in my current room due bad acoustics.. IMO £300 on speaker cables and interconnects for £5-6k worth of kit is a pretty reasonable amount at 5% of the cost.. 

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RE: Correct wiring of jumper cables

Just a quick note to say that I made some jumper cables out of TQ blue and I really didn't like them at all. Very veiled sounding. I'm happy to send them to anyone for postage. I've removed the terminations. I only paid £16.50 for a metre so it no big loss.