I did write to Roksan a while back suggesting digital inputs for their CDPs. No reply.
Why don't more manufacturers do this ?
Think I know the answer.
TV room : Samsung 60" plasma-ATV3, -AVI ADM40,/Sonos ZP90,, Sky using Sonos for On Demand, PS3
HiFi : Sonos ZP90 - AVI ADM9 RSS + AVI SUB
Bedrooms : 2 x Sonos Play 3
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Fr0g, I think you miss my point. I stream music from my iMac already, ripped with Rip i.e. exact CD copies, and it's pretty good. Not as good as my current CD player, but pretty good. I'm sure a better DAC would improve it, but I'm sceptical as to what a streamer would add.
I did miss that. Although I doubt a "better" DAC than the one you have will improve anything. Trying to gain improvements in the digital domain is seriously hard.
If you have good money and "really" want the best sound, then you should be looking at active speakers IMO.
“Out beyond ideas of wrong and right, there is a field.
I'll meet you there."
Given that you have taken against any answers other than those as a direct answer to your question, I'm not sure where this thread is going. You've had very few suggestions of transports in the main because very few people have heard these transports, because they use alternative sources, cheaper sources or all in one CDPs. Of the suggestions you have had, many of the people haven't heard them and even fewer, if any, have heard several of them to compare. You then criticise even those who have answered the question by saying no-one's suggested the Heed to you! It seems to me the best way to go about this would be simply to research all the transports in your price range, read the reviews that are available, find our which you are able to get held of and then listen to them yourself. You could do us all a favour with a detailed report of your findings. This may actually help someone. This thread has achieved nothing other than to aggravate you and stoke up old arguments.
Ben, you could be right, it probably isn't going anywhere and some of your suggestions as to why are probably sound. Having said that, it really isn't very useful to me for people to answer different questions to the one I asked. I have not criticised anyone for not suggesting the Heed; I just expressed surprise that it hadn't been mentioned. Irrelevant answers may have been given, but they certainly haven't aggravated me; to be honest I find some of them quite amusing. As for stoking up old arguments, I have to plead not guilty. If others want to argue I can hardly stop them.
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Source 2) Cyrus CD8 SE CD player
Source 3) iTunes (ALAC), iMac, Devolo Homeplugs, Apple TV3, Toslink, Arcam rDAC
Source 4) Technics SL-7 linear tracking turntable.
Roksan Kandy L3 amp, Spendor A5 speakers.
Other rooms: more Airport Expresses and Homeplugs with Denon AV system and Denon Mini system.
Trying to gain improvements in the digital domain is seriously hard.
Maybe, but possible.
I'm not remotely interested, through ignorance as much as anything else, but I would prefer to keep components separate.
Can WHF delete the post where I'm assuming Lhc is a tw*t as I don't know he is one, but he is behaving like one.
You could've edited your own post. Not much point though, now I've quoted this one.
I tried, hence it duplicated which has never happened before - editing on forums is not reliable
No it is not is it.
Hence you have to be 'kin careful about what you post in the first place.
To the OP I might suggest you have a look at any transport made by Stello (April Music) - see my sig.
They are rather good!
Origin Live Aurora Gold+Illustrious Mk2 arm+Zyx R100-02/Stello CDT200+Stello DA220 dac/Tom Evans Groove Anniversary phono amp/Tom Evans Vibe preamp/Linear A power amp/Acoustic Zen Adagios/Chord cables/Oppo 105EU.
Thanks for that; I've not even heard of Stello. I'll do some research.
I can't find a manufacturer's website. Is there one?
The Perfectwave Transport but it would have to be an ex-demo or similar as they are $3K new. These are one of the new breed transports with solid state buffer memory, it works similarly to a rip with error correction on.
Not many people have heard of them it would appear. They are missing out!
The website is www.aprilmusic.com .
Stello is one of their lines, the other being the Eximus range.
They are a Korean company that have received a whole bunch of accolades for there kit including the jolly old 'Blue Moons'.
I have, however, just noticed that my transport appears to have been discontinued along with the CDT100.
There may be a few ex-display knocking about.
Do consider a streamer like the Cyrus Stream X2 to feed the DAC with FLAC or other lossless format. You can keep an old drive as a transport in case you want to use it.
* Sound quality at least as good as CD - see http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/index.php/internet-audio/391-cyrus-stream-x....
* Ability to play higher resolution formats (CD is 44kHz/16 bit; 192kHz/24 bit is current top end for streaming)
* Access to whole CD collection from a smartphone/ tablet/ dedicated remote with better display information (eg track titles)
* CD collection available in multiple rooms (plus remote access via internet is possible)
The downside is:
* Computer (+ NAS drive required) to rip CD collection
* It's time consuming if you have lots of CDs
I have....for many years use a CD player connected to an external DAC until last year, I purchased a dedicated CD transport (the Musical Fidelity M1 CDT). I then realised that having a dedicated transport does provide a different music experience. However, I am using an AES/EBU connection between the CDT and the M1 DAC. So the different music experience may be due to that too.
My opinion on the CDT can be found at www.notanotherhifiblog.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-main-reason-i-want-to-te...
HiFi: ClearAudio Concept TT, Musical Fidelity M6i and M6 DAC, M1s (CDT, CLiC, ViNL), Onkyo TA2600, SONY MDSJA20ES MDP, ProAc D18 with full Siltech cabling.
HT: Samsung UA55B7000 LED, OPPO BDP 95-EU,Marantz DV4003, Yamaha RX-V2067, Philips DVDR7300H, Infinity Primus Center, Wharfedale WH2, SW15 Sub, Mission M34i with full QED cabling
Bedroom: Apple AE, Bose WAVE Music Sytem III, Musical Fidelity M1 HPA headphone amp, Bose Over the Ear
HeadFi: Alessandro Grado MS Pro, Beyerdynamic T1, Bryston BHA-1 headphone Amp.
Office: iTunes, UD110 USB DAC, Bose Companion II, Bose AE2w
Thanks. Googling took me here < http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/psaudio7/perfectwave.html > where I found the most easy to understand explanation of why CD audio is not just 0s ans 1s that I have ever read.
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