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Maybe but I think it pays to be opened minded when spending money to get the best results. 

Anyway this is a forum not an exam paper.

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Maybe but I think it pays to be opened minded when spending money to get the best results. 

Speaking from experience or did you just read that off another webpage?

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BigH wrote:
Maybe but I think it pays to be opened minded when spending money to get the best results. 

Speaking from experience or did you just read that off another webpage?

 

No I did not read it anywhere.

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Can I ask why you want a CD transport. I wanted a CD player because it is still better than lossless through my Sonos and DAC, and I just like the physicality of CD's.

 

I dont care to discuss the boring data is always the same regardless source theory, what you feel and hear is what matters in music. If people want the science behind this, there are plenty of dedicated resources that will do that. This is a hifi forum afterall.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only pure CDT's that have have been suggested are:

Cyrus CDT

Cyrus CDXTSE2

Wadia 571 CD

Chord Blu (second hand to be in budget)

Musical Fidelity M1CDT

other suggestions such as Bela Canto, Plinius and Roksan Caspian are complete CD players with built in DACs, so they don't fit the criteria.

I wll explore further and if anyone else has any relevent suggestions please let me know.  No one has mentioned the Heed Obelisk DT which surprises me; I've heard it has had some rave reviews.

Cheers

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ifor wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only pure CDT's that have have been suggested are:

Cyrus CDT

Cyrus CDXTSE2

Wadia 571 CD

Chord Blu (second hand to be in budget)

Musical Fidelity M1CDT

other suggestions such as Bela Canto, Plinius and Roksan Caspian are complete CD players with built in DACs, so they don't fit the criteria.

I wll explore further and if anyone else has any relevent suggestions please let me know.  No one has mentioned the Heed Obelisk DT which surprises me; I've heard it has had some rave reviews.

Cheers

Ifor

 

I used to own a Cyrus XT-SE CD transport (used with a DAC-X), happy to give my feedback on it if you're interested?

 

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Can I ask why you want a CD transport. I wanted a CD player because it is still better than lossless through my Sonos and DAC, and I just like the physicality of CD's.

I dont care to discuss the boring data is always the same regardless source theory, what you feel and hear is what matters in music. If people want the science behind this, there are plenty of dedicated resources that will do that. This is a hifi forum afterall.

My iTunes ALAC streaming through my Arcam rDAC does not sound as good as CDs played on the Cyrus CD8 SE.  I believe, though not yet proven, if I get a good enough DAC that might change.  The question will then be, do CDs played on the Cyrus sound better through the "new" DAC or though its own built in DAC.  I suspect it'll be the former.  If so I will then have an unwanted DAC built into a CD player so why not either upgrade it to a better Cyrus CD transport or trade it in against a CDT of another make.  My hope at this stage is that the "new" CDT will sound better than the CD8 SE played through the new DAC.  No decisions will be made without a home loan and a good amount of listening time.

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Source 4) Technics SL-7 linear tracking turntable.

Roksan Kandy L3 amp, Spendor A5 speakers.

Other rooms: more Airport Expresses and Homeplugs with Denon AV system and Denon Mini system. 

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The_Lhc wrote:

BigH wrote:
Maybe but I think it pays to be opened minded when spending money to get the best results. 

Speaking from experience or did you just read that off another webpage?

No I did not read it anywhere.

Funny, I thought you said you recommended active speakers because you read someone else's experience on another forum?

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I appreciate you feel too many responses to your thread have not given you an answer you like. And no doubt you will dismiss this as yet another.
But at least recognise that most people have at least been trying to help you.
You asked for opinions, you got them.
And the dominant opinion in this thread is that spending £1500 on a different transport won't better your Cyrus.
If you don't like the answer, that not the respondees' fault.

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Can I ask why you want a CD transport.

Because he has a separate DAC so only requires the transport.

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ifor wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only pure CDT's that have have been suggested are:

Cyrus CDT

Cyrus CDXTSE2

Wadia 571 CD

Chord Blu (second hand to be in budget)

Musical Fidelity M1CDT

other suggestions such as Bela Canto, Plinius and Roksan Caspian are complete CD players with built in DACs, so they don't fit the criteria.

I wll explore further and if anyone else has any relevent suggestions please let me know.  No one has mentioned the Heed Obelisk DT which surprises me; I've heard it has had some rave reviews.

Cheers

Ifor

 

But would the Heed go with your DAC, you may need to buy the Heed DAC as well?

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My iTunes ALAC streaming through my Arcam rDAC does not sound as good as CDs played on the Cyrus CD8 SE.  I believe, though not yet proven, if I get a good enough DAC that might change. The question will then be, do CDs played on the Cyrus sound better through the "new" DAC or though its own built in DAC. 

Have you tried plugging the CD8 into the rDAC to see if it degrades the sound quality to what you hear from the iMac? At least then you'd know you can hear the difference between the transports as you'll be bypassing the Cyrus DAC.

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But would the Heed go with your DAC, you may need to buy the Heed DAC as well?

That remains to be seen as do any of the combinations.  If it doesn't play well with it it won't be purchased.

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Source 2) Cyrus CD8 SE CD player

Source 3) iTunes (ALAC), iMac, Devolo Homeplugs, Apple TV3, Toslink, Arcam rDAC

Source 4) Technics SL-7 linear tracking turntable.

Roksan Kandy L3 amp, Spendor A5 speakers.

Other rooms: more Airport Expresses and Homeplugs with Denon AV system and Denon Mini system. 

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The_Lhc wrote:

BigH wrote:

The_Lhc wrote:

BigH wrote:
Maybe but I think it pays to be opened minded when spending money to get the best results. 

Speaking from experience or did you just read that off another webpage?

No I did not read it anywhere.

Funny, I thought you said you recommended active speakers because you read someone else's experience on another forum?

 

I suggest he heard them and just saying that one pre-Naim guy was very happy with his active speakers. Just as another guy who is posting on this thread is.  

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ifor wrote:

BigH wrote:

But would the Heed go with your DAC, you may need to buy the Heed DAC as well?

That remains to be seen as do any of the combinations.  If it doesn't play well with it it won't be purchased.

 

So you are trying to match the cd transport with your DAC?