Personally I cant tell the difference between a FLAC from a CD and the CD. Right now the only way to buy a lot of digital music at a decent quality is on CD so the format will live on until such time as there are more hi res downloads available.
There are a lot of CD's out in the market, who knows how many, so there will be a market place for new units for some time so one would assume the Hi Fi brands will continue to produce them as long as consumers continue to buy them.
Sounds like a bit of a step backwards but recently I have been blown away by how good a decent record player can sound so am thinking about adding one into my set-up for those pure music moments.
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Cyrus Stream XP, Arcam AVR 400, Cyrus Pre DAC QX, 2 Cyrus X Power in mono, Apple TV, Kef R300, Kef R100, KEF R200c , Chord Carnival SilverScreen, Rel T2 with Chord Cobra Plus, Chord Signature digital interconects, Chord Signature Tuned Aray Analouge interconects, Russ Anderws Power Max Plus Mains Leads, Sky HD, Denon 2010 Blu-Ray.
Home Office- Cyrus Streamline, Monitor Audio R90HD on MA stands.
Vinyl is no step backwards. For me, it remains the king of formats.
Rega RP3/White Belt/Elys2 - Pioneer A-30 - Dali Zensor 3. (+ Denon DCD720AE for CDs)
Pioneer PL12D II - Sansui AU2200 - Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 (+ Philips CD840 for CDs)
One thing that I don't quite understand, why 44.1KHz and not 48KHz? (I suppose I should just google it and stop being lazy.
Bizarrely enough, that's a standard which goes back to the days of recording digital audio on adapted video recorders, before hard-drives became sufficiently big and powerful to store and stream the data fast enough.
In 50 Hz video, there are 37 blank lines out of the 625 leaving 588 active lines per frame, or 294 per field (remembering that video is two interlaced fields per frame), and they stuck three samples on each line. So the sampling rate is given by: 50Hz X 294 lines X 3 samples per line = 44.1 KHz. In 60Hz video, there are 35 blank lines, leaving 490 lines per frame or 245 lines per field, so the sampling rate is given by 60Hz X 245 lines X 3 samples per line = 44.1 KHz
Main system: Mac Mini 2011 > HRT II+ DAC • Cyrus 2 & PSX • Cyrus tuner • MS 10i speakers [on loan]
Also cluttering-up the place: Thorens TD160 (no cart) • Marantz CD 63 mkII KI & PM66 KI • Technics SL-P777 • Nakamichi DR-1
Very much so!
It is my main source of listening, if I had the cash I would buy every single CD I have on vinyl - I do buy the odd new LP but mainly used LPs which on the whole have been superb!
Still surprised how good LPs sound on my Rega set up - never fails to bring a smile to my face!
BTW Vinyl is a Hi Res format!
ATV3 > Rega DAC > Rega Elicit R > Rega RS3
Rega RP6 / 10x5 / MP-110
yeah , I'm on the look out for a linn Sondeck ... just love that reto style.
Surely Vinyl & Digital can co exist together in the same environment!
Both formats have the good & bad points but in terms of SQ vinyl is KING!
Major, yes this has been done to death, but while I don't dispute the actual rip as being bit-perfect, the fact that remains that lossless formats are still compressed and require decoding and that could affect results. It cannot be nonsense if major makers like Naim, Wadia, Cyrus and Linn themselves explicitly make their preferences known (Naim and Wadia->WAV, Cyrus->uncompressed FLAC, Linn-> FLAC generally).
One thing that the CA751BD is atrocious at is browsing through a USB stick - it's dead slow. And I can see that possibly impacting performance as well. It's the same with Arcam's drDock - they don't officially support the iPod Classic, because I expensively discovered myself, it was dead slow and the dock clearly relies on the iDevice for browsing speed. And the sound while great, decidedly sounded a bit slow.
And when it comes to certain posters here it is, to quote you, 'another case of WHF forum 'mob rule' shouting-down anyone who dares to speak-out against a consensus opinion'.
A bit-perfect rip is one thing, playback is quite another, and that applies to digital and analogue.
Arcam Solo Mini/Monitor Audio RX1/Cambridge Audio 751BD/Samsung 37” LCD
How about an RP6? Or is a Sondek what you desire?
It could be, but then I haven't heard a modern deck with modern electronics. I do miss the tactility of vinyl though. Well 3 years ago, I returned a pair of speakers on home demo to a hifi dealer at his home. I expected to drop off and drive off, but he somehow kindly invited me in, made coffee, and he played Wish You Were Here on a really high-end system - he had an Audio Research amp, B&W 700(?) series speakers (the predecessors to the 800), but I suspect a mid-range REGA turntable. And to be honest I remember being non-plussed. But that could be down to anything, I don't know.
BTW, it may be down to blatant colouring/tuning on MA's part, but the RX1s sound warmer and more musical than anything! They make my system sound more vinyl than vinyl
So are you saying Cyrus are implying their streamers sound different depending on the level of FLAC compression? If they are, and they do sound different, then that's a technical fault which Cyrus need to fix.
Bad science alert.......
Apologies Steve if you are being ironic, but vinyl has a dynamic range of between 65 and 70dB. That's at best equivalent to 12bits.
Not high res where I come from.
Ok no worries!
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