Never downloaded music, still buy CD's and rip them to FLAC for the laptop and mp3 for the car and still have the physical disc as a back up. CD's are cheaper than ever and some good bargains to be had on ebay.
Why pay more money for lower quality?
New technology is not always better technology.
I totally agree.
I partly agree.
Buying secondhand CDs with the intention of ripping them to another format such as MP3 or FLAC is a cheap way of buying high quality music. This is the way that I buy most of my music.
However, listening to music by playing a CD in a CD player is getting a bit old hat IMO. There are other more convenient ways of playing digital music files nowadays.
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More convenient? That depends on what you consider convenient Steve. My stereo sits about 7 feet away from me. I come home, switch the plugs on, power them up (all less than 15 seconds) and load a disc up in the CD player. Really quite convenient....!
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I have over 3000 tracks in my digital music collection and I take them everywhere I go because they fit on a tiny memory card that weighs virtually nothing. If I used CDs this would be impossible to do because they're too big and bulky to carry them all.
When I walk to work I can listen to them on my earphones. When I get in the car I can stream them wirelessly to the car stereo. When I go to a friends house I can stream them wirelessly to his hifi. If I want to play music on another system in another part of the house I can stream them wirelessly via the wifi internet router.
Selecting music is easier too. For example if I want to listen to some 'Daft Punk' all I need to do is press one button and speak the words "Play Daft Punk" and as if by magic Daft Punk starts playing. If I want to listen to just classical music I can select music by genre at the touch of a button and it only plays the classical tracks. If I wanted to listen to Mozart I can select music by the artist and it only plays the Mozart tracks. If I don't know what I want to listen to I can just select all 3000 tracks and play them in a random order.
Oh and of course if I want to select an artist/album/song manually they're all there available on my phone, tablet and computer conveniently arranged into alphabetic order. I don't even need to get up to browse through them because the entire collection is on a screen under my fingertips.
With modern technology all of these thing are so simple and fast to do with digital music files. But with CDs all of these things are impossible to do.
I have over 3000 tracks in my digital music collection and I take them everywhere I go...
How many of those 3000 do you play on a regular basis?
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Every single one of them.
I own about 600 CDs but only rip and keep the very best songs and delete the all of the 'filler' tracks that I don't like.
At work I often listen to them on random for 8 hours a day and if ever I hear a song that I don't like it gets deleted. The 3000 tracks in my ripped collection are the crème de la crème songs that I really enjoy listening to.
It's a fair question, though in the age of digital media it's kind of irrelevant. It costs virtually nothing to store those 3000 tracks. (I have about 1TB of music: takes up practically no physical space and the storage cost is very small.) Amazon's business model is based on the idea of the 'long tail'. Sure, most of their sales are Taylor Swift and One Direction, but if you want the Bhundu Boys or African Head Charge, Amazon will supply, and the costs to Amazon of keeping a small stock of this obscure stuff are relatively low. So even if I only play African Head Charge once a year, what does it matter? It costs me virtually nothing to have it on disk, and I'm jolly glad I do.
What classical music are you listening to?
True - you can get cheap cd's on ebay.. but I you want new or rare music that's not the best marketplace. I'm using Bleep for downloads ( downloading flac) and pricing there is far from what some have said.. mp3 being the cheapest, then wav and flac, then cd; vinyl being most expensive... plus you can have flac quality files where cd's and vinyls are sold out...
download flac, back up, use mac, digital music = download = cd, use fast broadband... etc
I rather have film in my camera as a physical thing ( that gives me totally different looking images compared to digital images) and flac files on my mac that are totaly equal to cd's:-)
edit: try audirvana
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I'm using Bleep for downloads ( downloading flac) and pricing there is far from what some have said.. mp3 being the cheapest, then wav and flac, then cd; vinyl being most expensive... plus you can have flac quality files where cd's and vinyls are sold out...
+1 for Bleep. They have some great stuff and its often well priced.
I downloaded a couple of albums (in WAV) for less than £2.50 from bleep yesterday, that would have cost £20 each from amazon.
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Beep looks great - vinyl, CD and downloads with a good selection of hiphop and techno. thx
Enjoy the music!
I think PP will be horrified when he reads that.
I'm sure I remember reading once that he is a strong advocate of the... "sit down quietly and listen to a whole album with no other distraction" 'school' of listening.
My listening habits - and preferred media - are mixed.
I rip all the music from my CDs as entire albums to iTunes, in lossless.
However, all of my favourite tracks go into a big 'jukebox' playlist for shuffle play which is how they most oftened get listened to.
Classical music is all ripped from CD as albums (complete works) and listened to as such except for some compliations.
I also have a considerable amount of 'spoken word' content mostly ripped in 320K AAC VBR from my BBC CDs (history, comedy, drama, documentary etc.) and downloaded from here when I can't get the CDs. (In excellent sounding 256K whereas iTunes and Amazon 'strangle' all of their BBC spoken word material down to as low as 16K and charge much more!)
The spoken word stuff is all listened to as complete episodes or complete plays or complete programmes. (Or occasionally dibbed into for reference with things like the complete BBC 'Eyewitness' collection that I ripped a few years ago.)
I also listen to BBC iPlayer Radio and FM radio for spoken word and music. (And podcasts and archived material.)
Recently i've started to buy into the British Library spoken word CDs. (A bit pricey, but a great little historical 'seam' to mine as more stuff comes out.)
This is very interesting and shows a divide, perhaps a generational divide, in the way people listen to music. I don't listen to music on the move and indeed don't want to. I can't imagine taking music to a friend's house and neither do I want to listen to it in other parts of my house or at work (I'm retired now but never listened to music at work or wanted to). I can however see that digital music files make these things easy to do and agree that it would be hard to arrange with CDs.
My music listening consists of sitting on my sofa (generally not doing anything else at the time) and CDs are fine for that. Indeed finding one in my collection is part of the fun and there are the sleeve notes to read and various versions to compare (It's mainly classical) and with choral works there are the words to follow. I don't think digital music files would do much for me.
No and no. Of course I like to plug 'n' play but listen to a whole album with no added distraction? Fat chance! I put albums on but rarely hear half a bloody album.
Let's assume the average track is 4 minutes long - playing Devil's Advocate - even on random select, you would hear around 1900 tracks. This is also assuming you listen back-to-back music. I'd say Steve, based on that principle, wouldn't get much work done.
Yes, I have my system on around 6-8 hours a day but most of that is radio, also includes little'un watching a film on DVD, which leaves me about 30-60 minutes post-watershed TV of actual listening.
I buy more Cd's now than I ever have done and will continue to buy even more until it is no longer possible , I fully expect to be buried with my Cd player if possible because I love it so much Nothing else comes close .
Here is a picture of a few of my Cd's .
Plus 1 Have never bought so many as I have done in the last couple of years!
Electro, if it's not too much trouble, are you able to name some of the CD's pictured as my screen reader won't recognise graphics. I've already become hooked on Kings of Convenience on your recommendation.
One artist I've recently discovered who I think has been around for a few years, is Tina Dico.
Mac , it would be impossible to list all the Cd's in the picture as there are about 1500 , these are the ones I play regularly and I have many more in other cabinets !
What I can do is give you the link to my spotify page on which you will find over 900 tracks of music that I like to which I am constantly adding new music .
I hope you have spotify and can open the link ?
Let me know if you can access it .
I will also listen to Tina Dico
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I will also listen to Tina Dico
Thanks Electro, I'll take a look... hopefully It'll be alright, but spotify has recently become a bit trickier to access.
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Yes CD Players are a dying breed - and I have not used mine for quite a few years
All my CDs have been ripped to uncompressed FLAC file format and now sit on a NAS drive - this enables me instant access to my entire collection without hunting through racks of CDs; they are now in the loft with the cassettes, vinyl and VHS tapes
I have an audio streamer connected directly to a power amplifier and speakers, as others have said using an iPad I can now browse the entire CD collection, create favourite playlists etc. all from the comfort of my armchair. Better still is that the ripped CD audio quality through the streamer sounds clearer to my ears than it did using the CD player, and to really take listening into the 21st century I'm no longer limited to 16 bit 44.1 kHz material. I can download and store 24 bit, 88 kHz, 96 kHz and even 192 kHz albums on the NAS drive which sound far better than CD quality.
I completely agree streaming directly off the internet is not as good as CD (although a lot more convenient), but there is a whole new world of listening opening up to 'audiophiles' that is there right now and takes us well beyond CD which let's face it is over 30 years old! Thankfully things have moved on...
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