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Had my DAC a few days now, it sounds fantastic!

Using a chord crimson plus between DAC and amp would I gain anything by changing to chord chameleon plus?

Maybe I should just try it, if no improvement then I can always send it back

Thanks again for you all advising me not buy another CDP but a DAC instead!

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Hi stevebrock

Fwiw, I use a basic interconnect between Rega's DAC and Rega's Brio-R amplifier. 

Btw, I also use a basic interconnect when using Chord Electronics QBD76 DAC with Rega's Brio-R, Plinius Hiato, Densen's Audio Technologies B-175 Plus, etc.

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The Chameleon is a good cable, but save for the Cadenza - one of my favourites Smile

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A recommended cable of £180pm with an amp of this quality? Nothing wrong with the amp/DAC but is that not a huge budget for cable?

(Not wishing to start yet another 'cable' war)

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RobinKidderminster wrote:

A recommended cable of £180pm with an amp of this quality? Nothing wrong with the amp/DAC but is that not a huge budget for cable?

(Not wishing to start yet another 'cable' war)

Cheers

 

Too right. 

 

David, last time we discussed this you personally bought expensive cables for peace of mind and the only improvements you'd noticed from a cable was more than a decade ago and you couldn't remember what it was. Have you been conducting some rigorous testing since then?

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Think I will leave my cables be then!

Im enjoying my system & music at the minute with the recent addition of the Rega DAC so best not upset things

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RobinKidderminster wrote:
A recommended cable of £180pm with an amp of this quality? Nothing wrong with the amp/DAC but is that not a huge budget for cable?

(Not wishing to start yet another 'cable' war)

Cheers

It's a decent amp and DAC. Does the cost of a cable warrant it's use with a certain system, or it's quality, and what it does for a system? Smile

I'd like to add that the current Cadenzas can be picked up a little cheaper at the moment as Chord are revising the plugs.

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David, last time we discussed this you personally bought expensive cables for peace of mind and the only improvements you'd noticed from a cable was more than a decade ago and you couldn't remember what it was. Have you been conducting some rigorous testing since then?

If you'd like to double check those 'facts', I think you'll find we were talking about HDMI cables. Interconnects and speaker cables are entirely different, and I have and do hear differences with these cables. 

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FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

BenLaw wrote:
David, last time we discussed this you personally bought expensive cables for peace of mind and the only improvements you'd noticed from a cable was more than a decade ago and you couldn't remember what it was. Have you been conducting some rigorous testing since then?

If you'd like to double check those 'facts', I think you'll find we were talking about HDMI cables. Interconnects and speaker cables are entirely different, and I have and do hear differences with these cables. 

 

Well I go along with what Rob says. If you and your customers think this is a reasonable recommendation then good luck to you both. I would advise the OP to ignore what you have to say. 

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In all these things, it doesn't matter what any of us think....let the OP's ears be the judge.

The advice on here wouldn't be balanced, if only one side ever got put forward.

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stevebrock wrote:

Maybe I should just try it, if no improvement then I can always send it back

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In all these things, it doesn't matter what any of us think....let the OP's ears be the judge.

The advice on here wouldn't be balanced, if only one side ever got put forward.

+1.

The OP should listen for himself... and he shouldn't be biased by others, pointing to the (lack of) difference a cable makes. Some critical reading on the subject can be found here: http://www.audioholics.com/education/cables/top-ten-signs-an-audio-cable-vendor-is-selling-you-snake-oil. Needless to say the author of the article is a non-believer (which is OK if you're aware of it).

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I feel another cable debate just arrived. +1 for use your ears. My only point was ... Nah - let your ears do the testing and report back here to tell us your opinion.

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BenLaw wrote:
Well I go along with what Rob says. If you and your customers think this is a reasonable recommendation then good luck to you both. I would advise the OP to ignore what you have to say. 

Well Rob asked me if the budget for the cable was a little large, so I'm not sure what it is you're 'going along with'.

If the OP was starting from scratch with a system, I'd say start out with basic cables and spend the money on the hardware that matters and get the basics of the system right first. In this case, the OP has a very good, nicely balanced system, which I'm assuming he's not going to be changing. As the OP was looking at a (not unsubstantially priced) cable already, I'm just recommending him to try the rather excellent Cadenza seeing as it can be had cheaper than normal at the moment.

So yes, I feel that is a reasonable recommendation, and people are free to take my advice or leave it. So if the OP tries it out and doesn't like it, shoot me.

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stevebrock wrote:

Think I will leave my cables be then!

Im enjoying my system & music at the minute with the recent addition of the Rega DAC so best not upset things

Hi stevebrock

Nice one  Smile Save your time and money.

All the best

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FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

BenLaw wrote:
Well I go along with what Rob says. If you and your customers think this is a reasonable recommendation then good luck to you both. I would advise the OP to ignore what you have to say. 

Well Rob asked me if the budget for the cable was a little large, so I'm not sure what it is you're 'going along with'.

 

If you don't get that he was making a point with his question you're being pretty stupid, although if you tell me that's true I'd be prepared to accept it. 


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If the OP was starting from scratch with a system, I'd say start out with basic cables and spend the money on the hardware that matters and get the basics of the system right first. In this case, the OP has a very good, nicely balanced system, which I'm assuming he's not going to be changing. As the OP was looking at a (not unsubstantially priced) cable already, I'm just recommending him to try the rather excellent Cadenza seeing as it can be had cheaper than normal at the moment.

So yes, I feel that is a reasonable recommendation, and people are free to take my advice or leave it. So if the OP tries it out and doesn't like it, shoot me.

 

Thing is your post wasn't 'recommending him to try'. If you'd said that I wouldn't have replied. But your post had no qualifications, it didn't say you may find no difference or no worthwhile difference, it didn't say get a home audition, you said save up and get it. If it was as simple as that, please tell us what improvements the OP will find in his system? Except you won't because you've already backtracked from your OP. 

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