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Hi again

 

I am activ in a forum in my Country and it is  a lot of discrepances about the real efect in the quality of the sound in a HIFI equipment of the speacers and power cabels.

 

 it would be very inertsing for me to know waht is the opinion in this forum.

 

thank you in adavnce

Eduardo

 

 

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh !!

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Good speakers  Smile

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RE: Cabels

You definitely need power and speaker cables, that's as far as I'm willing to comment right now...

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The opinion of this forum is that cables do/don't make a worthwhile difference, and anyone who spends more than £1.50 per meter is gullible/sensible.

This is something to try for yourself in order to see which camp you are in.

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Great answer Cno. Kinda answers every cable post ever. Can't argue with it. Proven facts. 

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Hi Eduardo

Fwiw, with SCM11 monitors and all other ATC passive monitors i only use standard 79 strand OFC or 500 OFC speaker cables. As to mains cables i just use standard ones supplied with all electronics.

I wouldn't think about it too much. I'll suggest saving your time and your money and using basic/standard cables. Keep it simple. Simple is best.

Btw, ATC monitoring Cool

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JAJAJA really good answer!  I realize it is the same everywhere regarding this matter.  In chile they call them self  the Reds (do not think it make any difference) and the Blues (do belive it make a diference).

 

kr

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ebentjerodt wrote:

JAJAJA really good answer!  I realize it is the same everywhere regarding this matter.  In chile they call them self  the Reds (do not think it make any difference) and the Blues (do belive it make a diference).

kr

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I'm a "Blue" and know they make a difference! shifty

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Done a lot of cable listening over many, many years . . . I set my stall out back in the 80's, the amps and speakers I was using were producing a sound I liked. Change the cables and the sound changed . . . 'it was different' . . . not necessarily better or worse, just different. I used 1m of Linn K20 and a 5m interconnect run to the power amps, this  interconnect cable was something that I had tracked down, it  was not designed for hifi use, it was cheap, I made it up with nickel plated RS connectors.

Almost 30 years on, I still use the same cables, although the lengths are now the opposite of those originals; K20 8m, interconnect 1m. I avoid silver cable as it tends towards being bright, this includes silver windings in TT cartridges!

I believe this consistency has helps me adjust and evaluate my hifi SQ, so that what I hear can be trusted and I can make meaningful assessments in my mind . . . I trust my ears.

I also believe that a truly balanced system does not need fancy 'signature laden cable' to tweak it . . . If it needs a cable to alter the sound, there is something wrong in the component match??? . . . and dont forget, some cables are directional . . . puzzled

Does this make me 'blue' or 'red' . . . ?

CJSF

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CJSF wrote:

Does this make me 'blue' or 'red' . . . ?

CJSF

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CnoEvil wrote:

CJSF wrote:

Does this make me 'blue' or 'red' . . . ?

CJSF

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party time! party time! party time! Cool typing away  CJSF

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RE: Cabels

ebentjerodt wrote:

Hi again

 

I am activ in a forum in my Country and it is  a lot of discrepances about the real efect in the quality of the sound in a HIFI equipment of the speacers and power cabels.

 

 it would be very inertsing for me to know waht is the opinion in this forum.

 

thank you in adavnce

Eduardo

 

 

Why don't you search the forum for opinions on the topic before posting a new thread? This has been discussed numerous times before & shouldn't be difficult to find.

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I think it is always better to have a fresh discusion.  some reds have mybe turn in blue and some blue in red after those discussions!!  Wink

 

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I agree wiht you. If you need cables to alter the sound there is something wrong wiht the match.  but for example in my case due the setting of my living room y am forced to use 5 mt cables and at the moment I have the Nordost 2falt (16).  will my sound imrove or change if I use for example the in-akustik reference 1002?  maybe in this case it will make sence due the lost I can have wiht this cabels in 5 mt?

 

thank you in advance

 

kr

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bigboss wrote:

ebentjerodt wrote:

Hi again

 

I am activ in a forum in my Country and it is  a lot of discrepances about the real efect in the quality of the sound in a HIFI equipment of the speacers and power cabels.

 

 it would be very inertsing for me to know waht is the opinion in this forum.

 

thank you in adavnce

Eduardo

 

 

Why don't you search the forum for opinions on the topic before posting a new thread? This has been discussed numerous times before & shouldn't be difficult to find.

Bigboss has a point - you are pretty much trolling. Mind you, not many people have taken the bait so far.

Fresh discussion? Far from it, you know very well that the discussion will be just the same as before - you said as much. The only thing fresh about it is your novel spelling of "cabels".