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RE: B&W A5 and A7 auditioned

Firewall log: Having the Airplay device on the guest network attracts a lot of port attacks (UDP broadcasts the presence of the device) aimed towards the airplay device. Luckily, this specific hw should not be vulnerable. It would be interesting to know the internal sw used in the device.

Have enabled inbound UDP ports 6001-6003, but still can not get the airplay remote to ffwd or rfwd the songs, or set the volume. Also, adjusting the volume from iTunes causes 1-2 sec sound drop. Q is which more ports to adjust?

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RE: B&W A5 and A7 auditioned

Well you've put me off the idea of hearing the A7 now.

Way too much faffage.

When I installed AirPlay on my Marantz it was a doddle in comparison (apart from momentarily not being able to tell between a 0 and an O in the code I had to enter when registering for it).

I've not experienced any problems or dropouts (or any issues you have described) in the 20 months i've had the M-CR603.

AirPlay (with an iPhone) has been my daily (and primary) source so I couldn't have tolerated any of this for a moment.

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RE: B&W A5 and A7 auditioned

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Q is which more ports to adjust?

I can only refer you to B&W's own support page...

http://bowersandwilkins.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/55/~/firewall-ports-utilised-by-airplay

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To me it appears as if AirPlay is exact opposite of Apple's ethos. Apple is all about simplicity and "It just works" policy. AirPlay is getting far more complicated than that.

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RE: B&W A5 and A7 auditioned

I guess that the real reason why Naim never have added Airplay is because the combinations of

OS+firewall+router

are to many!

 

Thanks Chebby for the port list. A problem is that the page does not state if it is inbound/outbound or both. Also, the win7 pdf have a different formula: Add iTunes & Bonjour as trusted apps and enable udp ports 6001-6003 (which are not mentioned in the table).

 

Will continue to struggle until everything works as it should. 16-bit streaming to the A7 is very enjoyable!

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RE: B&W A5 and A7 auditioned

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I guess that the real reason why Naim never have added Airplay is because the combinations of

OS+firewall+router

are to many!

They know that AirPlay users can just add an ATV or AE.

In this case it's odd that B&W don't seem to make things as easy as it can be.

After registration I only had to enter my network password and AirPlay was suddenly 'discoverable' by iTunes on our iMac and our PCs and laptop (the AirPlay symbol became 'live' with "Marantz M-CR603" listed).  Obviously there was no problem with my iPhone 'finding' the Marantz.

I never had to tinker with any firewalls or run set-up apps or anything.

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RE: B&W A5 and A7 auditioned

Chebby, can you adjust the volume without any sound drop?

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Chebby, can you adjust the volume without any sound drop?

No dropouts at all whether I control the volume from my iPhone or from the Marantz's own volume control. (If I change the volume from the Marantz, the volume slider on the iPhone goes up or down to match.)

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If I were you, i'd get rid of this thing whilst you are still within the returns period. Sounds like B&W don't 'do' AirPlay very well and you don't want to be still grappling with it after the returns period has ended.

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RE: B&W A5 and A7 auditioned

I guess it is my network setup which is causing some troubles. Others will probably not have any issues at all.

 

The problem is that the info on the support site is not sufficient!

I would like it to be more technical.

To sit and experiment with a firewall is like playing with fire.

 

SO FAR:

Bonjour needs TCP out.

iTunes need UDP to local port 6001-6003 in.

iTunes need TCP to Airplay device port 1024 (the actual streaming).

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So why is it that I only needed to input a network password on the Marantz once AirPlay was enabled on it?  I didn't need to touch firewalls/ports etc. on any of our computers.

I just brought up iTunes afterwards and there was the AirPlay symbol ready to go (on a Dell laptop, a Dell PC and an iMac).

Is AirPlay set-up so different in the B&W scheme of things?

"I guess it is my network setup which is causing some troubles"

What is so different/non-standard about your network/firewall set-up?

 

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RE: B&W A5 and A7 auditioned

I unplugged the cord to the A7, connected it again and MAGIC: volume works for both the iPad and iTunes on Win7.

 

My firewall is very conservative, that's the difference that comes to mind.

Thanks Chebby for the input of how it is supposed to work, could not find that on the support site. This forum actually works!

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I unplugged the cord to the A7, connected it again and MAGIC:

Excellent.

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Imagine the load on the support department to resolve issues like this! How on earth will they be able to help Mr Joe Smith?

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Imagine the load on the support department to resolve issues like this! How on earth will they be able to help Mr Joe Smith?

Automation?

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