Pioneer 656 mark Wharfedale diamond 155
Hi, I got the new V90 dac by music fidelity but I cant hear any diffrences between it and my computer soundcard which cost 1/10 of the price Id payed for the dac. How can this be or is my amplifier to bad sounding (Pioneer 656 from 1991). Expected fine rythmics and insightful sound..
It may be the amp but what are you connecting to the DAC and how?
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The difference in DACs is small. Many soundcards have DACs that are transparent.
The only reason for the super expensive ones is bragging rights
(In my opinion)
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The V-dac is only £200 I would not expect there to be much difference, thats what I have found with DACs.
What soundcard have you got?
The soundcard is Asus xonar dg, I play all sound via its optical out to the new dac.
The asus actually has a really good dac in it, so not surprised you haven't noticed any difference.
I think you've just come across the wonderful world of overpriced hifi equipment compared to what other real world alternatives are out there
I agree with fr0g. The difference between DACs is very small to nonexistent IME. I'm not surprised by your findings as I've heard a couple of PC sound cards which sound identical to HiFi DACs.
PC > AVI Neutron Five 2.1
Sony NWZ-A847 64GB Walkman > Westone UM3x
only!! I don't agree £200 is cheap for a DAC.
To the OP, what quality/bit rate/type etc are the music files your using? If they are poor quality to start with - it will be worth ripping them again in a lossless format.
HiFi- Cambridge Audio 340C- Pioneer A30- Dali Lektor 2 speakers. Denon FM/AM. Pure DAB.
Marantz CD6004 - Beyerdynamic DT250
I payed 280euro for this dac, my files in flac dosnt sound better then before, I maybe get a little more bass but thats it but for the money I would rather buy a subwoofer instead.
Have you maybe thought of connecting your DAC to your computer via USB instead of via your soundcard's optical output? That's how I'd have connected it. I know some will argue this is a rubbish analogy for a plethora of probably valid reasons, but you wouldn't judge the quality of a new amp by feeding it from the tape outputs of your old one
Main system: Mac Mini 2011 > HRT II+ DAC • Cyrus 2 & PSX • Cyrus tuner • MS 10i speakers [on loan]
Also cluttering-up the place: Thorens TD160 (no cart) • Marantz CD 63 mkII KI & PM66 KI • Technics SL-P777 • Nakamichi DR-1
Look at the websites of some of the companies that actually make DAC chips. They only make two or three stereo ones - there's no huge range of audiophile ones to pick from as people would have you believe when they go on about 'good' or 'better' DACs. They're sold on basis specs which indicate they're capable of delivering sounds way outside of what we can hear.
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I had a similar experience when I bought an Audio-GD NFB-12 DAC/headphone amp to use with my PC instead of coming straight out of the motherboard soundcard - which admittedly is probably worse than a discrete sound card such as yours. I could hear some improvement; I think but when I took the DAC downstairs and hooked it up to the digital out from the TV and DVD/CD player I could hear absolutely no difference whatsoever.
I'm now also of the opinion that there is very little to choose between DACs apart from functionality and build quality. As it happens I had other reasons for buying it in that it has a decent headphone amp and line out so serves as an easy way to switch between speakers and headphones. Also don't need to use the computers software volume control anymore for the headphones.
More audiophile hype I think.
Can you get your money back?
There's not much point in playing files through your sound card and then into the DAC. As the Major says, better to connect via USB. You'll need to set the PC sound up so that the DAC is acting as the PC's audio device and the sound card is being bypassed. The V90's user manual explains how to do this.
What classical music are you listening to?
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