Black Ravioli

It takes a brave man to put his head above the parapet on this thread, so I appreciate your support (again). Maybe I should now make 2 appointments to get medial help.

I just got moderated and edited in a really weird way.

I have bought expensive speaker cables buy only got them cause I thought it was worth the asking price... It was on a 2month trial period.. But it still came down to my ears again. Always trust the two things sticking out both sides of ur head.. Simples!! Also i changed from a target hifi support to a quaddraspire support & noticed better performance from the latter. All down to my ears.

Thats not to say some stuff out there are just snake oil.

You have all that nice equipment and you cannot see the difference between an AV amp and dedicated stereo amp?

I have a decent AV amp (Sony STR 5400ES) bought for its apparent musicality. Now, I absolutely hate when people on internet forums use the term "night and day difference", but to my mind the differnence is absolutely night and day.

Were you in a Kebab shop? 

 Well you see.. thats not to say all AV amps are like your sony AV amp!!..

Don't worry, I read it, it was funny but I guess the bit about licking vinyl in a floor covering shop (hmmm, strawberry...) could have been construed as a personal attack, given there are two people in this thread that have actually bought the product in question (BR, not vinyl flooring).

I agree there will be people more into the equipment than the music, and that's fine, but personally I do think you have to be into the music to want your system to sound the best it can, by whatever means necessary. What's the point otherwise?

Sometimes I have flashbacks to that night.

And it is one of those days.

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How do you listen to music. CD through your oppo blu ray plaer? and then through a £600 Marantz AVR?

And those through SF Cremona????

Total mismatch if ever I heard of one. Those are KILLER speakers. Why are you feeding them this way, its tantamount to cruelty.

I lived with music though my AVR for a year or two. Trust me, your speakers deserve far better and you are simply missing out. With equipment like that, no amount of Black Ravioli is going to make a jot of difference.

Yeah - makes sense.

Nothing wrong with licking a bit of vinyl (or rubber) though.

I have a story about that too.

Doesn't involve a kebab shop but does involve dwaves again (different ones to the kebab shop night though).

Cause I use my ears.. I dnt care what anyone thinks.. I only care of what sounds good to my ears!!  I dnt seem o have a problem with it.. Have you heard my system..?

Slightly off-topic but for luxury products pride of ownership plays a big part. Consider the simple wrist watch. There's no way a mechanical watch lIke a Patek or Rolex will keep better time than a quartz-powered Seiko or Casio yet when many people are asked to name a good watch, I'm pretty sure they're more likely to mention one of the high-end Swiss brands than a much cheaper Japanese brand.

Why would anyone pay a massive premium for a Rolex (an entry level model costs about £3000) when a Seiko costing under £100 keeps better time, ie measures better, offers more features and is so much cheaper to maintain? My guess is pride of ownership that comes from clever marketing. People will buy into the company's history, heritage etc or they are fans of the celebrities that endorse the watch (Tiger Woods, Roger Federer). In the case of Patek there's an aura of exclusivity as well, the company only makes about 50,000 watches per year compared to Rolex, which produces almost one million annually.

But whatever the reason, you cannot use rational analysis to explain the purchase decision, ie you cannot tell a prospective Rolex buyer that he's wasting his money and he'd be better off with a Seiko because it will keep better time than the Rolex.

I think when it comes to high-end audio, a similar emotional response will apply - people will pay big bucks for pride of ownership, even if the claimed sonic superiority cannot be measured scientifically.

I'd like to see what you might end up doing with some BR!! 

...but don't you have your eye on a lovely Electro amp?