bi wiring and speaker cable
right ok, cheers guys! so in a nut shell get a decent single wire speaker cable and use jumers. dont put my speakers right in the corners. so what ya thinking as a starting point? about say 150mm from back wall and 300m inwards away from corners?
The biwiring debate has been going on for almost as long as I've been alive and longer than many of the posters to this forum have been alive! There has never been any scientific justification for biwiring and doubt that there ever will be.
Mind you it's a good way of selling cable!
Chris
Mind you it's a good way of selling cable!
Buy wire 
Hi matt78
I know your systems components.
I'll recommend single wiring your 602 S2 speakers (using the links supplied to connect the terminals) with standard 79 strand OFC or at a push 500 strand OFC speaker cables as i feel these will be more than good enough for your components.
As to a change of electronics -
How would you describe the performance of your Technics/B&W system?
What genre of msuic do you generally listen to?
Is your preference for an integrated amplifier, pre/power or either?
Is there anything in particular you would like the new amplifier to have (such as remote, tone controls, mp3 input, headphone socket, phono input etc.)?
Your general listening level?
Your overall budget?
With a change of electronics what improvements will you be looking for?
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Musicraft (Derby), Specialist Hi-Fi/AV & Multimedia Dealer
good accurate audio monitoring and good sound reproduction to all
The objective view is that speaker cables of the same resistance can't possibly sound any different - particularly 'bright' or 'warm'. This is an internet old wives tale.
It has nothing to do with the internet, that's for sure. I was listening to different cables before computers were even made for the home, let alone the creation of the internet.
Resistance is probably the least relevant factor too, though if you are fortunate to hear no differences then you just saved yourself lots of money!
The biwiring debate has been going on for almost as long as I've been alive and longer than many of the posters to this forum have been alive! There has never been any scientific justification for biwiring and doubt that there ever will be.
Chris, it might not be 'scientific' to you, but there is surely a certain logic to using one cable for the tweeter's signal and another for the woofer (in a 2-way). It has certainly waned in popularity, but to me it is a similar logic to the bi-amping approach.
I do suspect the benefits are system dependent, in that some will clearly be better and others won't. As ever, why not just listen and decide rather than hold phoilosophical positions?
Nah i would go 150.452mm and 300.8mm. Ffs just lob em down,have a listen, stick a bit of masking tape on the carpet to mark their position,shift em again,have a listen ad nauseam. Tis your room buddy and it aint rocket science 
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The biwiring debate has been going on for almost as long as I've been alive and longer than many of the posters to this forum have been alive! There has never been any scientific justification for biwiring and doubt that there ever will be.
Chris, it might not be 'scientific' to you, but there is surely a certain logic to using one cable for the tweeter's signal and another for the woofer (in a 2-way). It has certainly waned in popularity, but to me it is a similar logic to the bi-amping approach.
I do suspect the benefits are system dependent, in that some will clearly be better and others won't. As ever, why not just listen and decide rather than hold phoilosophical positions?
Hi
If you read my other posts you will see I'm all in favour of listening and deciding. What I'm not in favour of is attaching some unproven justification for it, especially when companies use it as an argument for you buying their products.
I also agree that there is some logic for biwiring. It is completely possible that some cables could convey higher frequency signals "better" than low frequency signals and ditto the other way round. It's certainly true at very high frequencies but at audio frequencies I very much doubt there is any such effect (or if there is that it is detectable by the human ear) but I'd look at evidence if it were presented to me. I remember trying biwiring in the 1970s and I could not detect any difference then when my hearing was brilliant but if you can then I'm all in favour of you doing it!
Chris
The biwiring debate has been going on for almost as long as I've been alive and longer than many of the posters to this forum have been alive! There has never been any scientific justification for biwiring and doubt that there ever will be.
Chris, it might not be 'scientific' to you, but there is surely a certain logic to using one cable for the tweeter's signal and another for the woofer (in a 2-way). It has certainly waned in popularity, but to me it is a similar logic to the bi-amping approach.
I do suspect the benefits are system dependent, in that some will clearly be better and others won't. As ever, why not just listen and decide rather than hold phoilosophical positions?
Hi
If you read my other posts you will see I'm all in favour of listening and deciding. What I'm not in favour of is attaching some unproven justification for it, especially when companies use it as an argument for you buying their products.
I also agree that there is some logic for biwiring. It is completely possible that some cables could convey higher frequency signals "better" than low frequency signals and ditto the other way round. It's certainly true at very high frequencies but at audio frequencies I very much doubt there is any such effect (or if there is that it is detectable by the human ear) but I'd look at evidence if it were presented to me. I remember trying biwiring in the 1970s and I could not detect any difference then when my hearing was brilliant but if you can then I'm all in favour of you doing it!
Chris
It is interesting to see that the Chord Company is no longer making biwire specific cables.
Having had lengthy discussions in the past with many BT Engineers and loss of signal quality over miles of the thin cable they employed led me to decide much of what is spouted about speaker cables in general is predominantly buhl-sheet!
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I have tried this and IMHO they are as good as very expensive so called high end ones
I have tried this and IMHO they are as good as very expensive so called high end ones
:grin: He is, however, perfectly entitled to have an opinion.
... Epic's eh?
The biwiring debate has been going on for almost as long as I've been alive and longer than many of the posters to this forum have been alive! There has never been any scientific justification for biwiring and doubt that there ever will be.
Chris, it might not be 'scientific' to you, but there is surely a certain logic to using one cable for the tweeter's signal and another for the woofer (in a 2-way). It has certainly waned in popularity, but to me it is a similar logic to the bi-amping approach.
I do suspect the benefits are system dependent, in that some will clearly be better and others won't. As ever, why not just listen and decide rather than hold phoilosophical positions?
I think if you understand how passive crossovers work then there isn't really any logic in that at all...
musicraft,
in reply to your questions. well i will answer them but i found out today one of my tweaters no longer works, hence why i thought my music wasnt right. i am going out next sat to audition moniter audio bx6,rx6 and bx5's also B&W 685's.
right back to your questions well, performance wise it WAs good at volumes from say 11 o clock to about 3 o clock, load and good quality, it lacked quality from no sound to 9. i listen to alot of music at night when mrs at work and my son is in bed. so i do want good sound quality at low volumes but also the power to crank it when necessary. i have had numeriuos house parties with my set up playing at 3/4 volume for 6 to 8 hours and its never cut out or distorted.
i listen to all sorts, drum and bass, house, techno, bands heavy and chilled. pretty much everything but classical. my has a phone stage, headfone input etc. my amp has all the features i want in a amp.
I have tried this and IMHO they are as good as very expensive so called high end ones
:grin: He is, however, perfectly entitled to have an opinion.
... Epic's eh?
indeed he is..
I've Just upgraded to the Epic's and lovin them.
I tried biamping to no effect so I recon biwiring is a waste of time for me. However this must depend on the crossover and therefore could be good in some systems. I certainly think (having bought a number of 'good' cables and interconnects) that there are more important things to change before cables. Maybe in certain high quality systems they can make a diffeence.
Get decent cable but dont go overboard. My opinion only.
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