bi wiring and speaker cable
hi,
i have recently moved house and need longer runs of speaker cable. im having my speakers in the corners of the room and my tv in the middle. my wall is about 4.2 mtr's wide. my sterio will be on the wall to the side. im currently using qed bi wire silver anniversary, but i cant afford 14 mtr's of bi wire cable. im thinking of buying chord company silver carnival and making my own jumpers from the same cable. now will this cable sound better than my qed? also i may change my amp/cd player next year or both to roksan. does silver carnival work well with roksan equipment as i dont want to be buying more cable again next year. my sterio comprises of Technics sua 808 amp Technics slps7 cd player B&W 602 s2 speakers, atlas equater interconnect
I hear that old record playing ...... room treatment b4 cable changing.
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QED silver is a bright cable, I prefer the the carnival silver screen
QED silver is a bright cable, I prefer the the carnival silver screen
This is of course a subjective view.
The objective view is that speaker cables of the same resistance can't possibly sound any different - particularly 'bright' or 'warm'. This is an internet old wives tale.
QED silver is a bright cable, I prefer the the carnival silver screen
This is of course a subjective view.
The objective view is that speaker cables of the same resistance can't possibly sound any different - particularly 'bright' or 'warm'. This is an internet old wives tale.
Silver plated cable usually has smaller capacitance thus have less impedence than copper wire. It therefore allows higher frequencies to pass through more easily resulting in more detailed HF reproduction. Pure copper wire is the other way round. Therefore not all speaker cables are the same which also applied to interconnects which is more noticeable due to small current passing through the wires.
QED silver is a bright cable, I prefer the the carnival silver screen
This is of course a subjective view.
The objective view is that speaker cables of the same resistance can't possibly sound any different - particularly 'bright' or 'warm'. This is an internet old wives tale.
Silver plated cable usually has smaller capacitance thus have less impedence than copper wire. It therefore allows higher frequencies to pass through more easily resulting in more detailed HF reproduction. Pure copper wire is the other way round. Therefore not all speaker cables are the same which also applied to interconnects which is more noticeable due to small current passing through the wires.
I'm not getting into this again but this but I would encourage the OP to do their own reasearch to discover why this isn't true for signals in the audible range. Stuff like this is spouted by people as it sounds semi-scientific but it simply isn't true for our hobby.
Yes it IS possible to design cables that will make a difference but you'd have to be stupid to do so as designing cables that don't make a difference is simple.
Silver plated cable usually has smaller capacitance thus have less impedence than copper wire. It therefore allows higher frequencies to pass through more easily resulting in more detailed HF reproduction. Pure copper wire is the other way round. Therefore not all speaker cables are the same which also applied to interconnects which is more noticeable due to small current passing through the wires.
While capacative effects do impact signal transfer along a cable, they are negligable at audio frequencies in speaker cable applications and have nothing to do with whether the cable is silver or copper.
I can only assume this silver vs copper thing comes from silver appearing 'bright and shiny' and copper appearing 'mellow and warm'. I certainly don't know of any electrical property that would imply any difference between the the two metals.
Silver plating is used to protect the conductors in a cable, against oxidisation, it is also used on connectors for the same reason and provides a slightly lower contact resistance (at the termination points).
Well, different people has different views on the choice of cables and on their effectiveness. Some people say they can hear the difference while others not. It is really up to individual to make a judgement.
In my personal experience the sonic difference from very high end speaker cables vs cheaper ones are not that big. But my ears told me that there are distinct differences in SQ between silver and very pure OFC interconnects.
My advise to the OP is that try to hear if you can spot any differences before buying. All the views expressed here are all personal and just for your reference. You need to make your own judgement by actual audition.
Back to the question of bi-wiring, in my experience I could not hear a difference using bi-wire setup and my advise is just forget about it and use the same money to buy a better quality single wired cable or just a cheap cable in case you cannot hear any difference. Change the solid metal jumper bridge at the back of the speaker with cables might help to improve SQ but TBH the differenec is very very small in my personal experience.
meh.. Using expensive speaker cable is splitting hairs imho
I have tried this and IMHO they are as good as very expensive so called high end ones 
We are back to avoiding mumbo jumbo again! I bought a fairly expensive interconnect cable when I got my system because I thought I could hear a difference in the showroom and because the price wasn't material to me. What might cause the difference? No idea, can't imagine it's anything to do with capacitance though because at audio frequencies capacitive effects would be tiny. It might be a purely subjective thing as I didn't do a blind test and "cognitive dissonance" is a well known phenomenum. However if you can hear a difference or even just think you can hear a difference go for it, perception is reality!
Chris
We are back to avoiding mumbo jumbo again! I bought a fairly expensive interconnect cable when I got my system because I thought I could hear a difference in the showroom and because the price wasn't material to me. What might cause the difference? No idea, can't imagine it's anything to do with capacitance though because at audio frequencies capacitive effects would be tiny. It might be a purely subjective thing as I didn't do a blind test and "cognitive dissonance" is a well known phenomenum. However if you can hear a difference or even just think you can hear a difference go for it, perception is reality!
Chris
Agreed. If one can actually hear a difference or perceived to have heard a difference then go for it, else just buy a cheap cable for your table lamp as your speaker cable .
thank you for replying, what concerns you about me having my speakers in the corners? they would be toed in to suit my sitting position on my sofa. as i said my room is 4.2 mtr wide so ithought it would sound and look better if the speakers were in the corners rather than sat randomly say 1m in away from the corner. this is stereo and not a av set up, also my B&W's have the base port on the front so that is not an issue. following on from my original question does anyone know if Roksan are a good match for B&W 602S2's.
Putting speakers in the corner is nearly always a recipe for boomy bass and muddled sound stage due to reflections off the wall. It won't be so bad as your speakers are front ported but I would try and give them as much room as possible but really do try and avoid having them the same distance from the side wall as they are from the rear wall.
Hello, seeing as no one else has answered I'll give my view.
It won't make a blind bit of difference - use whatever cable you want and use it to replace the jumpers too.
Positioning your speakers away from the corners is what I'd be concerned about...