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I have the CM1's and went through the same process you've gone through. I upgraded from some cheapy wharfedale 9.1's (£100) so was a big difference in quality.
Cm series tweeter is very revealing but not in a bad way, you'll get used to it. Creakings on piano chairs, drum sticks against snare drum rims and various other random noises that should never have made it on to the production release of a song can all be heard.
Cm range is a very quick speaker (which is why i bought them) so even short noises (clicks and pops) will be picked up and brutally presented. Slower speakers will smooth it over.
With all the money sound studios spend on gear you would hope the production would be good. Half of the reason i listen to Deadmau5 and some Hed Kandi stuff is that i can pretty much always guarantee an excellent if not perfect production.
Hi-Fi: Beresford TC-7520 Dac --> Marantz PM7000 Amp ---> B&W CM1
PC Setup / Headphones: B&W MM-1, Audio Technica ATH-ES7, Philips Fidelio X1
Yeah I am kind of surprised to be honest, as far as I was concerned my 685’s were real hi-fi and generally it wasn’t clear if the CM5’s would be a big or a small step up. But I find them a massive step up, it’s frustrating at times to be put off by bad quality recording but when you do find a well-produced one it’s infinitely more rewarding. It’s even revealing issues in films which is somewhat of a surprise too. I thought the latest action movies would be perfect but I hear the odd issue with them too.
It makes me want to get a CM centre to see what impact that has over a HTM62
kingnothing83, what stands have you got the cm5 on ?
if you have tried different stands, were there any big differences ? (are your stands heavy, mass loaded with blutach between speaker and stand ? are the bottom of the stands spiked ? are your speakers just "flat" on the stand top plates ? a lot of questions but interested as i'm considering the cm5 plus other £800ish speakers for a future upgrade. have checked out photos on google and there seems to be an endless array of stands these speakers are used with - in some cases they are just placed on a desktop ! are they stand sensitive ?
thanks for reply
Yeah a few of people on the forums (not necessarily WHF) said the cm range wasnt worth it over the 685s etc. Turned out to be bad advice and glad i demoed before parting with cash as the cm range was worth every penny over the 685's.
i've demoed the cm centre - it will compliment your cm5's perfectly of course, but at the time i decided to just have a 2 channel system for films.
mikefarrow, check out the matching fs700 stands. they can be mass loaded, weigh a tonne even when they are not mass loaded. Best of all the speakers can be bolted to the stands so they ll never get knocked off.
looks the bees knees too - just a bit pricey
ben123, thanks for advice. i take it that these speakers are designed to perform their best when on heavy stands. (and not the super light weight torlyte wood design by russ andrews) i like the idea that they can be bolted to the dedicated stands to prevent being knocked over ! i take it that this "bolting" provides the ultimate coupling of spealer to stand which these speakers need to perform their best ? its confusing when speakers are reviewed and judged when the actual stands used can influence the sound produced - if only there was an industry standard refeference stand.........
cm series cabinet construction (very heavy for size) is among the finest of any speaker. and yeah i suppose bolting the speaker to the stand will only add to that. you want the speaker cones to move not the cabinet. you could probably improve on it slightly by adding a rubber gasket between the speaker base and the stand. but havent felt the need tbh
i havent done extensive speaker stand sound tests but i jus think that overall aesthetics and not worrying about someone knocking my speakers off is worth the money. the way i look at it those bolts are protecting my investment
if you ever get the chance to see the fs700 stands in the flesh and lift them you will realise why they cost so much. apart from the bits that can be mass loaded, they are solid cast iron.
@mike Stands are Atacama aurora 6 – decent stands and most importantly for the other half – they look good. They don’t have blu tac but have some rubber pieces built into the base of the stand, I have spikes, but the stands aren’t mass loaded (they could be). I don’t think those stands are made any more which is a real shame, they’re pretty heavy even when not mass loaded but with some atabites in there they’d be firmed up. Would that likely only impact the bass or also the treble? I almost went for floorstanders but really pleased I went with CM5’s and a sub so that I can be in more control of the bass and have good clarity.
I’d really recommend the CM5’s and I found them ex demo with a 2 year warranty for £500 which was a bit of a bargain!
@ben I read those comments too but after buying the CM5’s the difference really is night and day! I’d be tempted to go for the fs700 stands if I ever had kids as I think it would be less likely to be pushed over by a child!
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