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But what did you have before?

 

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steve_1979 wrote:

Digital cables and power cables make no difference to the sound quality. They either work or they don't.

 

You can hear a difference with some analogue cables though. The good ones don't add any noticable distortion so they all sound the same because they can't make the original signal any better than it already is. Bad cables that do add distortion can make it worse though and I suspect this is what often gets mistaken for an 'improvement' with some of the overpriced audiophile cables.

 

(I know this comment has been cut and pasted from another cable thread but the point is a valid one and is worth repeating for anyone new reading this. Smile )

If you think that the power will go through a very thin piece of wire, also called the fuse, I agree that under normal circumstances, the kind of power cable used shouldn't make any/much difference. If however you live in an intereference intensive environment and I'm not talking partners, a shielded cable or at the very least some sort of noise supressor close to the power inlet of the unit, can indeed make a difference, at least in my experience. - That goes for pretty much any analogue cables.

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steve_1979 wrote:

 

 

(I know this comment has been cut and pasted from another cable thread but the point is a valid one and is worth repeating for anyone new reading this. Smile )

 

Hmmm. Is he in contravention of house rule 13? Wink

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There are two questions here. First, can the design of cables (diameter, material, shielding, spacing) make a measurable difference to their electrIcal properties? The answer to this question is unambiguously 'yes'. The second question is whether these electrical differences are sufficient to make a perceptible difference to the sound of an audio system. As I suggested on another thread a month or two back, there's no robust scientific evidence either way (at least none that I've been able to find).

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drummerman wrote:

If you think that the power will go through a very thin piece of wire, also called the fuse...

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/accessories/hi-fi-tuning-extreme-fuses-any-thoughts

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Hi again i think its the older cable that was rubbish heres a pic of the 2 together

 

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5766/3mcc.jpg

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The old ones do indeed look rubbish. 

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Nelly, the only thing that's important here is that you're happy with the new speakercables.................. Smile

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Cypher wrote:

Nelly, the only thing that's important here is that you're happy with the new speakercables.................. Smile

 

yes you are exactly right im happy not cost me the earth(£12 terminated)and im thrilled even if it is placebo Wink

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My experience is that speaker cables do make a difference.  I'm not sure about the usefulness of parting with big sums of cash for them, but I do think different approaches to speaker cable construction and materials result in audible differences.

As Cypher said, if you are pleased with them just carrying on enjoying!

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drummerman wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:

Digital cables and power cables make no difference to the sound quality. They either work or they don't.

 

You can hear a difference with some analogue cables though. The good ones don't add any noticable distortion so they all sound the same because they can't make the original signal any better than it already is. Bad cables that do add distortion can make it worse though and I suspect this is what often gets mistaken for an 'improvement' with some of the overpriced audiophile cables.

 

(I know this comment has been cut and pasted from another cable thread but the point is a valid one and is worth repeating for anyone new reading this. Smile )

If you think that the power will go through a very thin piece of wire, also called the fuse, I agree that under normal circumstances, the kind of power cable used shouldn't make any/much difference. If however you live in an intereference intensive environment and I'm not talking partners, a shielded cable or at the very least some sort of noise supressor close to the power inlet of the unit, can indeed make a difference, at least in my experience. - That goes for pretty much any analogue cables.

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I agree that if you have EM interference then shielded cables will help. But in the majority of cases using shielded cables isn't necessary.

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drummerman wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:

Digital cables and power cables make no difference to the sound quality. They either work or they don't.

 

You can hear a difference with some analogue cables though. The good ones don't add any noticable distortion so they all sound the same because they can't make the original signal any better than it already is. Bad cables that do add distortion can make it worse though and I suspect this is what often gets mistaken for an 'improvement' with some of the overpriced audiophile cables.

 

(I know this comment has been cut and pasted from another cable thread but the point is a valid one and is worth repeating for anyone new reading this. Smile )

If you think that the power will go through a very thin piece of wire, also called the fuse, I agree that under normal circumstances, the kind of power cable used shouldn't make any/much difference. If however you live in an intereference intensive environment and I'm not talking partners, a shielded cable or at the very least some sort of noise supressor close to the power inlet of the unit, can indeed make a difference, at least in my experience. - That goes for pretty much any analogue cables.

regards

Never had any issues of that kind when using the cables that come with the amp. Even at full volume with nothing playing.

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Nelly wrote:

Hi again i think its the older cable that was rubbish heres a pic of the 2 together

 

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5766/3mcc.jpg

 

Yep. Not thick enough.

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Cypher wrote:

He is using 2 x 2 mtr. cables. The thickness will make no difference at all.

If that was so his old ones would sound the same as the new.

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Nelly wrote:

Cypher wrote:

Nelly, the only thing that's important here is that you're happy with the new speakercables.................. Smile

 

yes you are exactly right im happy not cost me the earth(£12 terminated)and im thrilled even if it is placebo Wink

 

Not a placebo. A real improvement.   Smile