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Hmmm where was all this attitude when I was lobbocking BigColz a few weeks ago when he openly admitted he regularly downloads music illegally and he doesn't think it's a big issue.  All I got told is that I was a sanctimonious so-and-so.  Tell a lie I think Ben did at least back me up.

 

I did indeed  Smile And I agree with OD on this one but tend to have a break between having the sane fights! (Especially if it involves trying to engage with a WUM like mirren boy.)

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MajorFubar wrote:

Hmmm where was all this attitude when I was lobbocking BigColz a few weeks ago when he openly admitted he regularly downloads music illegally and he doesn't think it's a big issue.  All I got told is that I was a sanctimonious so-and-so.  Tell a lie I think Ben did at least back me up.

TBF There is a difference in the two cases.

Absolutely. Mirren Boy at least bought his CDs to start with.

Sorry for digressing.

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'openly admitted he regularly downloads music illegally and he doesn't think it's a big issue'

And that criminally equates to MirrenBoy wanting to give away/sell his CDs while keeping them ripped? Well let me pose this to OD; say you had a chunk of CDs which you ripped on your hard drive, and now those CDs get stolen, do you now wipe off that hard drive?

Yeah right.

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BenLaw wrote:

MajorFubar wrote:

Hmmm where was all this attitude when I was lobbocking BigColz a few weeks ago when he openly admitted he regularly downloads music illegally and he doesn't think it's a big issue.  All I got told is that I was a sanctimonious so-and-so.  Tell a lie I think Ben did at least back me up.

 

I did indeed  Smile And I agree with OD on this one but tend to have a break between having the sane fights! (Especially if it involves trying to engage with a WUM like mirren boy.)

 

Disagreements fine , fights sounds more like spitting the dummy out just because you don’t agree with someone.

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steve_1979 wrote:

Earlier in this thread I was asked to compare files from other companies that offer hi-rez music in various different formats. I've been too busy to do it this week but I will get around to looking into it soon...

...of this I have little doubt.

I also believe it will be done in a fair, neutral and non-judgemental manor.......so I look forward to (but have an ominous feeling about) what you will expose! 

Beer Beer

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steve_1979 wrote:

Earlier in this thread I was asked to compare files from other companies that offer hi-rez music in various different formats. I've been too busy to do it this week but I will get around to looking into it soon...

...of this I have little doubt.

I also believe it will be done in a fair, neutral and non-judgemental manor.......so I look forward to (but have an ominous feeling about) what you will expose! 

Beer :beer:

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manor? And no hayfights please rolling on the floor laughing

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128kbps and upwards??? Ha ha ha ha, THIS is why I would take 6 months, to avoid drivel like this. So suddenly we need golden ears to tell against even 128k?? You cannot be serious.

My word, all those people like Mirrenboy who spend 20k on Linn hifi must really be stupid. You're quite brave to imply that to them dear chap. As for Linn giving all those demonstrations comparing MP3s to lossless music on their systems - what a monumental waste of time and money, especially since NO-ONE can tell the difference.

Bye now, and this time I think I'll take 12 months.

 

Spoken like a petulant five year old.  Once you're ready to engage in a reasoned debate, etc.  Oh and if you are going to comment on file compression, maybe these days try and come across like you're not reading from a hifi magazine from 1998 as your source.  

Anyone wanting to spend £20k or more on a system is buying into something a little more than just music replay IMO.  Whether that is cache, brand appeal/marque, design philosophy (not just audio), whatever.  And Linn is probably a poor example if they're comparing the kind of MP3s and FLAC files Steve 1979's investigated of late.  

But I can save you the bother; find the same mastering, good quality, good dynamic range, then rip a few versions.  Oh, I know you say you can tell a difference, but the reality is significantly to the contrary for most and I suspect you'd fit slap bang in that category, for all your protestations.

Good call on finding the italic function's working by the way...now, where's that rolleyes thingy again....

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Totally in agreement about piracy and illegal downloading it’s bad for artists and the music business.

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128kbps and upwards??? Ha ha ha ha, THIS is why I would take 6 months, to avoid drivel like this. So suddenly we need golden ears to tell against even 128k?? You cannot be serious.

My word, all those people like Mirrenboy who spend 20k on Linn hifi must really be stupid. You're quite brave to imply that to them dear chap. As for Linn giving all those demonstrations comparing MP3s to lossless music on their systems - what a monumental waste of time and money, especially since NO-ONE can tell the difference.

Bye now, and this time I think I'll take 12 months.

 

Spoken like a petulant five year old.  Once you're ready to engage in a reasoned debate, etc.  Oh and if you are going to comment on file compression, maybe these days try and come across like you're not reading from a hifi magazine from 1998 as your source.  

Anyone wanting to spend £20k or more on a system is buying into something a little more than just music replay IMO.  Whether that is cache, brand appeal/marque, design philosophy (not just audio), whatever.  And Linn is probably a poor example if they're comparing the kind of MP3s and FLAC files Steve 1979's investigated of late.  

But I can save you the bother; find the same mastering, good quality, good dynamic range, then rip a few versions.  Oh, I know you say you can tell a difference, but the reality is significantly to the contrary for most and I suspect you'd fit slap bang in that category, for all your protestations.

Good call on finding the italic function's working by the way...now, where's that rolleyes thingy again....

Stuck Record Spot. And in case you can't read properly (and indeed you did not read my post properly), I made no judgement whatsoever in Mirrenboy having a 20,000 quid system. Then again irony isn't quite in your vocabulary is it?? And why your obsession about 1998 compression editorials? Trust me, I never read any of those. I only started ripping music, in any format, shape or form years later.

Steve's diagnostics are admirable, but I really just care to enjoy the music and not read and analyse and scrutinise its inner bits and bytes. I gladly leave that to your ilk. And it's certainly right to mock me if I find 128k audio detestable and appalling, no matter how good the recording may be.

Hopefully this will leave you unstuck, so the great stylus in the sky may squeeze more melodious, pleasant and sensible words out of your mouth, rather than the inane and banal insults that emanate from your brain.

BYE NOW.

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manor? And no hayfights please rolling on the floor laughing

rolling on the floor laughing

It's late and I'm frazzled!  embarassed

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Prove me wrong then Manic...lol.  Look, if it's too difficult for you and all...

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'openly admitted he regularly downloads music illegally and he doesn't think it's a big issue'

And that criminally equates to MirrenBoy wanting to give away/sell his CDs while keeping them ripped? Well let me pose this to OD; say you had a chunk of CDs which you ripped on your hard drive, and now those CDs get stolen, do you now wipe off that hard drive?

Yeah right.

 

No, you re-purchase them with your insurance money. I have ensured both my CD and DVD / blu ray collections are fully insured, as I am sure everyone else with any sense has. 

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No, you re-purchase them with your insurance money. I have ensured both my CD and DVD / blu ray collections are fully insured, as I am sure everyone else with any sense has. 

 

Yep, and keep the receipts if one is so inclined.  Spending £90 on a 2TB hard drive is additional insurance for backups to prevent the physical loss of one.  

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BenLaw wrote:

manicm wrote:

'openly admitted he regularly downloads music illegally and he doesn't think it's a big issue'

And that criminally equates to MirrenBoy wanting to give away/sell his CDs while keeping them ripped? Well let me pose this to OD; say you had a chunk of CDs which you ripped on your hard drive, and now those CDs get stolen, do you now wipe off that hard drive?

Yeah right.

 

No, you re-purchase them with your insurance money. I have ensured both my CD and DVD / blu ray collections are fully insured, as I am sure everyone else with any sense has. 

And if one doesn't then he/she is breaking the law? Is that why your title BenLaw, still I suspect the irony of your avatar is lost on you.

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Started with a rack system

Started with a rack system Sanyo then discovered What hifi and went along to s proper hifi shop and got an Arcam system with haybrook HB1 speakers. Personally I would rather have a right good system than have a fancy car sitting outside the door simply because music bring much more pleasure. We all work hard for our pleasures they don’t come on a plate.
Have already written there are a lot of bad 24bit recordings out there that are questionable. I don’t know how to measure them and to be honest I’m not interested. Only my ears can tell good from bad. There are good ones too. It’s like the Mobile Fidelity CD’s. The Nivermind mix is incredible while the 24bit version suffers from loudness and sounds muchy for it.

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