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Linn's sound quality should be taken in context ie. compared with the quality that is generally available in the market place. If there is any other label who consistently exceeds Linn's sound quality, I would like to hear about it.

As I have said previously, it would be a great achievement to have everybody else in the industry, match the sound quality set by Linn.

IMO. Going after the record company who shows "best practice for the industry", though interesting, is not the right battle.

You make some good points here Cno.

 

I know that I'm repeating myself again but it is worth remembering that the quality of Linns music is exellent. The sound quality is miles better than almost all of the pop music that you get nowadays and is on a par with some of the high quality classical recordings that I've heard.

 

Whilst I obviously think that they should offer the studio masters in all formats and make it clearer to their customers exactly which mastered version of the music they're buying I also think that they should be commended for the high quality of music that they offer. It's also worth noting that most of the other record companies don't even offer the studio master version to the public at all and we're forced to listen to the crippled CD master with reduced limited range.

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CnoEvil wrote:

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You sound like you're trying to convince someone, but I'm not the one that makes judgement on these matters or dishes out the punitive fines. 

I'm not that interested beyond thinking that music piracy is bad news and your post reads that you sold your expensive and extensive collection of CDs having first ripped them to your NAS. Like I said, it's what you have written that I have commented on, because it reads as somewhat out of order.

If you still own the said CDs (which I questioned) then it doesn't matter does it?

As piracy goes, I've heard of a lot worse. Given that MB has (presumably) bought all of his extensive music collection (and continues to do so), he is contributing more to royalties than most.

How many of us on here are so law abiding in all aspects of life, that we can genuinely stand in judgement of others, over minor infringements of the law.

You're right, there is a lot worse, but I find it wrong to be discussing ripping off music on a hifi forum, hypocritical certainly. I may have got the wrong end of the stick, but was only commenting on his statement, which reads that thousands of pounds worth were ripped. In any case, I don't think you can point to larger crimes as mitiigation though.

About the judgement thing, that's something the courts do.

 

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MirrenBoy, I hope you weren't referring to me - I really did not comment on the amount you spent on your hifi. And if I had the cash and space I would too! But a good telly would be in the price as well.

And I also would rip all my music to a NAS, and sell/give away my CDs I've purchased for over 2 decades (well I'd actually keep some), and Overdose and obtuse piracy laws would not hurt my ears' conscience one bit.

Like you, those CDs will not be made available to the general public, so what's the big deal? It's not profiteering. I'm sure Overdose has stuck an old vinyl inner sleeve which reads 'HOME TAPING IS KILLING MUSIC' on his wall somewhere - skulls and all. Kudos to him.

Oh and WHF p*r*i*c*k is not a swear word if used correctly, as I wanted to instead of 'hurt' above. Eventually there'll be nothing of the Oxford dictionary we can use.

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About the judgement thing, that's something the courts do.

Exactly right. Judgement should be left to the courts.   Smile

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Guys, the law is not mine to dictate and it is not something that is really up for discussion. My comment was on a statement that I found objectionable and there is a distinction between what I find objectionable and what is legal or not.

Be aware that this is actually a public forum and if you are admitting to some wrong doing, the whole world can see it.

There really is nothing else to say on the matter, so I won't and we can all get back to music (legally sourced of course). Wink

 

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I know that I'm repeating myself again but it is worth remembering that the quality of Linns music is exellent. The sound quality is miles better than almost all of the pop music that you get nowadays and is on a par with some of the high quality classical recordings that I've heard.

Whilst I obviously think that they should offer the studio masters in all formats and make it clear to their customers exactly which mastered version of the music they're buying I also think that they should be commended for the high quality of music that they offer. It's also worth noting that most of the other record companies don't even offer the studio master version to the public at all and we're forced to listen to the crippled CD master with reduced limited range.

IMO. I think your points are fair, but your "fight "needs to be made more generalized.

It's a bit like complaining that BMW has limited their M5 to 150 mph, when the vast majority of people are driving around in electric milk floats!  Wink

 

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Sorry (I'm not), you completely miss the point. He isn't distributing to anyone but himself, and where do you get thousands of pounds from? He's certainly hardly one of those people "da feds" are out to get!

What a pathetic judgmental post.

That post was in defence of you, you idiot. Thanks for confirming everyone's suspicions.

I’m genially sorry. I’m posting from offshore in west Africa and I’m into the 8th week doing 14 to 16 hour day’s so I’m probably shattered and jumping to the wrong conclusions. Rather than going back reading the threads I just read the one above. Apologies mate.

 

We are all music lovers from all walks of life with a common bond. Getting the best out of music. I might not agree with some of Steve’s posts but I do admire what he is trying to achieve and totally agree the best sound quality should be across the board rather than priced as if it’s a bottle of wine   

 

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Mirren Boy wrote:

Alec wrote:

Mirren Boy wrote:

Sorry (I'm not), you completely miss the point. He isn't distributing to anyone but himself, and where do you get thousands of pounds from? He's certainly hardly one of those people "da feds" are out to get!

What a pathetic judgmental post.

That post was in defence of you, you idiot. Thanks for confirming everyone's suspicions.

I’m genially sorry. I’m posting from offshore in west Africa and I’m into the 8th week doing 14 to 16 hour day’s so I’m probably shattered and jumping to the wrong conclusions. Rather than going back reading the threads I just read the one above. Apologies mate.

 

We are all music lovers from all walks of life with a common bond. Getting the best out of music. I might not agree with some of Steve’s posts but I do admire what he is trying to achieve and totally agree the best sound quality should be across the board rather than priced as if it’s a bottle of wine   

 

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You may be technically right regarding the law. You have the right to find said action to be objectionable. But we have the right to disagree with you. And you do come across as wanting to put the fear of God, or rather the law into said posters. And I can equally and rationally find that objectionable as well, as firstly this is not a forum to post threats, veiled or otherwise, and secondly as I do not see Mirrenboy committing piracy, or profiteering in anyway possible.

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Wow, look where you get with calling someone an idiot. I should try this robust approach in future. 

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BenLaw wrote:

 I should try this robust approach in future. 

What you?

Surely not!  excellent!

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Hmmm where was all this attitude when I was lobbocking BigColz a few weeks ago when he openly admitted he regularly downloads music illegally and he doesn't think it's a big issue.  All I got told is that I was a sanctimonious so-and-so.  Tell a lie I think Ben did at least back me up.

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Hmmm where was all this attitude when I was lobbocking BigColz a few weeks ago when he openly admitted he regularly downloads music illegally and he doesn't think it's a big issue.  All I got told is that I was a sanctimonious so-and-so.  Tell a lie I think Ben did at least back me up.

TBF There is a difference in the two cases.

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BenLaw, if you're in total agreement with Overdose don't you think your avatar is ironic? That whole album was Roger Waters' reflection on the music industry a good 37 years ago. And that reflection was entirely cynical and unpleasant. Just as unpleasant as your robustly idiotic comment prior to this.

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CnoEvil wrote:
IMO. I think your points are fair, but your "fight "needs to be made more generalized.

I agree. Smile

 

The issue of the 'loudness war' is aimed at all of the music industry and Linn is better than most of the other record labels where sound quality and dynamic range issues are concerned.

 

Earlier in this thread I was asked to compare files from other companies that offer hi-rez music in various different formats. I've been too busy to do it this week but I will get around to looking into it soon...

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