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Like I say some people are just here to argue for the sake of it...   Well the only thing I may have to say, all ears are not equal.. I use 16bit & 24bit files almost everyday in the studio. If you say that there is no difference between 16 & 24bit  to people who work in the music studio enviroment there will just laugh at you.

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RE: Better mastered music could be on the way!

After reading this latest Linn response I'd like to reiterate:

What we're dealing with here is separate mastering of a single body of music created at the same time and marketed at different price points.

 

In the meantime, groups like Turn Me Up!* are expending effort to encourage artists and producers to create more dynamic records (or more accurately, records that are not dynamically constrained) for consumption by all.

*http://turnmeup.org/index.shtml

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RE: Better mastered music could be on the way!

Anyone have any troll repellant?

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Native_bon wrote:

Like I say some people are just here to argue for the sake of it...   Well the only thing I may have to say, all ears are not equal.. I use 16bit & 24bit files almost everyday in the studio. If you say that there is no difference between 16 & 24bit  to people who work in the music studio enviroment there will just laugh at you.

The first post in this thread contains a link to the Sound on Sound forum.  I suggest you read what the people who work in a studio environment have to say there.  Then I think you should tell them where they are going wrong.  Will you please let me know when you've done this?  I'll go buy some popcorn while I wait.

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RE: Better mastered music could be on the way!

Only if you are tertially qualified.... Holding the tertial qualification is the only way to go.

I'm off to start a new thread "What are you analysing now...." You'll find it in the joyless section.

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char_lotte wrote:
Only if you are tertially qualified.... Holding the tertial qualification is the only way to go. I'm off to start a new thread "What are you analysing now...." You'll find it in the joyless section.

 

I don't see that the concept of this debate is any way illegitimate on a hifi forum. Nor does anyone's participation in it indicate any comparative inferiority to yourself in terms of their enjoyment of music. Frankly, reading it when it inevitably makes one joyless seems to be the odd behaviour. 

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Native_bon wrote:

Like I say some people are just here to argue for the sake of it...   Well the only thing I may have to say, all ears are not equal.. I use 16bit & 24bit files almost everyday in the studio. If you say that there is no difference between 16 & 24bit  to people who work in the music studio enviroment there will just laugh at you.

The first post in this thread contains a link to the Sound on Sound forum.  I suggest you read what the people who work in a studio environment have to say there.  Then I think you should tell them where they are going wrong.  Will you please let me know when you've done this?  I'll go buy some popcorn while I wait.

 All thing being equal 24bit files sound better than 16bit files. simples.

Edit, from what i read it does not say 24bit is not better.. You are actually saying there is no difference at all.( In the studio enviroment) or you cnt read as well.

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Native, we are talking about listening to the final product on your stereo at home.  This is not a studio engineering forum.

Have you grasped this yet?

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8 bit is enough for anyone Smile

 

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Craig M. wrote:

Native, we are talking about listening to the final product on your stereo at home.  This is not a studio engineering forum.

Have you grasped this yet?

My piont being, if you dnt capture real dynamic head room in the studio with 24bit files then you will not get the best sound quality to play on HIFI systems at home. Having said that, If a 24bit master file is played on A good Hifi system it will sound better than a 16bit master file.  Hope u get the piont now.

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I think the 16 bit is enough camp has put forward plenty of justification or evidence, h about some from the 24bit is better camp? Can you provide evidence that the higher bit files sound better in their final form? And hats considered a good hifi? One with more than 96db of snr I take it?

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Epic fail typing on an I device there tyranniux...

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Epic fail typing on an I device there tyranniux...

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Epic fail typing on an I device there tyranniux...

 

indeed... You are an imbecile

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tyranniux42 wrote:

Epic fail typing on an I device there tyranniux...

 

indeed... You are an imbecile

 

who do you think you are? Pcad?...

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