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 Saying that the 9's would cost over £3.5k is ludicrous. A bit of realism wouldn't go amiss.

 

There's nothing like the realism of customers parting with their hard-earned cash, David.   If you check, you will find many who have sold multi-thousands of pounds systems, because the AVIs were better.  Look back on the forums.  They are real people, maybe even some were your customers ?

 

ADMs, it should be remembered are not just loudspeakers.  You only need a source.  Everything else is provided.  Including pre-amp, DAC, and wireless remote control.

 

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The main distortion is how much noise two old blokes in a shed, selling – what? – 10 or 20 pairs of speakers a month, tops, can create when they marshal their acolytes.

 

HaHa,  I think their secret of success, spiny, is the rather extensive electronics production facilities they have in the South Wales factory, and the also extensive production of cabinets, both overseas (not China, btw), and in the UK.

 

"The shed", a rather nice old Mill on a stream in the Cotswolds, is where they are designed.  They do all their own original research and design work.

 

If you saw the pallet loads of stuff arriving and being despatched, you wouldn't be so sarcastic, or misinformed.  But perhaps your comments are deliberately disparaging, - what have they ever done to you ?

 

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I wonder what the OP's question was?

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I'm sure I heard of a manufacturer who owned a Bentley but I can't remember who it was...

Got a couple of old Bristols too.

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The Genelec 8260a

 

They may not be everyones idea of the best in the world but these are probably the clearest that I've ever heard. They have a lovely detailed and smooth sound that I could listen to all day long. The DSP on them works too. I'm usually sceptical of using DSP but with these it did seem to help the sound.

 

I'm not too sure about the looks though? :?

 

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/genelec2/1.html

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Go and find out for yourself, oldric.  Talk to Martin.  Hear them for yourself.  With your prelidictions, I really think first-hand assessment by your own hand and ear is probably the only way you will be happy.

 

That's what I did.

 

JC

sorry JC. I don't trust my ears. I trust graphs. it's kind'o fishy that a company that boasts so much about the importance of low distortion design can't even present measurements.... I somewhat disbelieve your claims that they offer any lower distortion than any other typical 2-way speaker at or around their price.

 

Firstly, I didn't restrict my comment to typical 2-way speakers, or restrict it to a price bracket.  Neither did the OP.  Those are simply your imaginative presumptions.

in no way any imaginative presumptions. you said AVIs have lower distortion to which I replied that I sincerely doubt it and then I added that any other speaker in that price range and construction principle will have similar distortion levels, to compare like with like. but you're right, if we discard price and design restraints there's simply no content, you'll easily find speakers with lower distortion.

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jcbrum wrote:

They do all their own original research and design work.

Who does their PR?

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John Duncan wrote:

jcbrum wrote:

They do all their own original research and design work.

Who does their PR?

 

JC seems to be under the impression that he does, but no one at AVI has the heart to tell him..... as they dont need PR, the speakers sell themselves.....

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BenLaw wrote:

I wonder what the OP's question was?

 

There wasn't a question. It was yet another bit of brainwashing by the AVI cult. Maybe 'are these the best speakers under £4,000?' would have been a better title.

 

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John Duncan wrote:

jcbrum wrote:

They do all their own original research and design work.

Who does their PR?

 

At least JC and Oldric are having a debate, this comment and David's are simply designed to aggravate and provoke people. 

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John Duncan wrote:

jcbrum wrote:

They do all their own original research and design work.

Who does their PR?

Max?

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BenLaw wrote:

John Duncan wrote:

jcbrum wrote:

They do all their own original research and design work.

Who does their PR?

At least JC and Oldric are having a debate, this comment and David's are simply designed to aggravate and provoke people. 

Is it working?

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p.s. on the other hand, they do have more than 25 years experience of designing, and manufacturing very high quality audio equipment, both electronics, and loudspeakers.  You might learn something.   Smile  JC

wow, you really need 25 years of experience to put together some OEM drivers and a few planks of wood? any decent DIYer (I mean no disrespect to any DIYer) could do that with a few days of making preparations. but they needed 25 years to design a wooden box with two holes and then buy some drivers from ScanSpeak? well done AVI!

BTW since you're already boasting of experience in speaker design; my speakers are essentially unchanged since their inception some 40 years ago (granted, there were plentiful tweaks but the basic principle remained unchanged). another ones that I'm contemplating are about 50 years old. I believe that people behind those designs know a thing or two how to make a worthwhile product too. it's not like only AVI holds all the secrets to audio perfection.

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Nah, - Ash does the PR. 

 

I'm just a AVI user, and ordinary forum user, speaking from personal experience.

 

Max says can he have an account please JD, because he thinks you're all being unfair.

 

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Max says can he have an account please JD, because he thinks you're all being unfair.

No.

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