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altruistic.lemon wrote:

Come on! Ever gone into any shop or supermarket and asked them to publish their trade prices? They'll all tell you quickly what to do.

Remember too that Hi Fi shops do provide a service, in that you can compare different products. That doesn't happen with direct sellers. Also, do you know what AVI's profit margin is? I'm guessing it's more than the average HiFi retailer's is. 

Independent retailers need a margin. We couldn't keep a nation-wide network of demo rooms open without then.

AA

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And you know us unreputable manufacturers wouldn't shift any of our overpriced tat if it couldn't be audibly shown to produce a marked improvement in the independent sphere of a well informed fellow-enthusiast.

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FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

If he was right I'd have kept quiet. But he's not, so I didn't.

So the listing referred to by the company in question was wrong then? BigH is stating what he saw in black and white and he is correct.

I don't expect that they'll publish the correct figures in the future though, do you?

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FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:
Hifi shops don't sell many units per day but they still need to make enough profit to stay in business. I think that a 100% markup is reasonable considering they have to pay all the bills that hoops mentions above AND make a profit.

As I say, we can only wish for those sorts of margins. 

We offer those sort of margins.

Jon + AA Team

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>> Best Speakers

I would say without a shadow of a doubt its PMC and everyone should audition the SE series. 

If you can afford it and you have the space for it, your speaker journey will most likely end with a PMC SE.

http://www.pmc-speakers.com/products/consumer/se-series

 

 

Um, we respectfully disagree.

Jon + AA Team

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Overdose wrote:
So the listing referred to by the company in question was wrong then? BigH is stating what he saw in black and white and he is correct.

I don't expect that they'll publish the correct figures in the future though, do you?

I checked an £800 Naim and an £800 Audiolab product, and the figures definitely weren't 100%, even after settlement.

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Novaportian wrote:

Well said Drummerman,

 

People should feel free to recommend any kit that they own or have at least heard. After all, I have made a demo short list of some of my kit based on folks opinions here and on other forums. 

 

If some people claim that their kit is the best then I would personally just smile because it all comes down to personal taste. If any newbies looking at this thread are put off, then my advice is to demo as much as you can, be confident with your choice. You don't need to justify your purchase to anyone but yourself (or maybe the Mrs!)

 

I would respect anyone who posts on why they like their kit, rather than make claims to being the best. I'm actually going to demo my brother's ADM9s soon as a potential second system. I would join HDD to seek some opinions but I think if it became known I  have a black box with Naim on I would be flamed! 

 

Life is too short to get hung up on arguments, especially based around electrical goods. Me, I just want to listen to music and enjoy it  Dance 4

 

Cheers, Nick

Nick,  You absolutely would not get flamed at all.  Most people have been down various hifi roads and have owned Naim and all sorts of other stuff and some still do.  The only time you get flamed or kicked off is if you deliberately post to be a pain in the bottom.  Ash insists that people treat each other with respect.  He even encourages people who do or are going to manufacture a competitor product to join in the forum, eg Moos.

Come on in, join up and have a civilised communication with other hifi[and other passtimes] lovers.

I like this message.

Yes, we're a bit new. Yes, we seem a bit outrageous in some of our claims, but YES!!! We'VE MOVED THE SCIENCE 'ON'!!!

You can have it "all" now; small boxes, big transients, sweet tops, solid bass... NO COMPROMISE (save for 88dB@1W, but max 200W+).

Google us.

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JonAlacrityA wrote:

Theo wrote:
>> Best Speakers

I would say without a shadow of a doubt its PMC and everyone should audition the SE series. 

If you can afford it and you have the space for it, your speaker journey will most likely end with a PMC SE.

http://www.pmc-speakers.com/products/consumer/se-series

Um, we respectfully disagree.

Jon = AA Team

Of course you would Smile

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I'm sorry for drawing more attention to the rule breakingly blatant self promotion going on (:)) - but your frequency response doesn't look particularly flat. Was that in room or anechoic?

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FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

Overdose wrote:
So the listing referred to by the company in question was wrong then? BigH is stating what he saw in black and white and he is correct.

I don't expect that they'll publish the correct figures in the future though, do you?

I checked an £800 Naim and an £800 Audiolab product, and the figures definitely weren't 100%, even after settlement.

Then perhaps you need to renegotiate. Wink

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FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

I'm sorry for drawing more attention to the rule breakingly blatant self promotion going on (:)) - but your frequency response doesn't look particularly flat. Was that in room or anechoic?

Hey, this thread asked for all-comers with any suggestions. I'm just following forum policy.

The measurements are in-room with an XTZ Pro II system. U can see three clear room nodes in the bass, but look how controlled and extended-without-humping the bass actually is... into subsonic.

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Worried about profit margins of our hifi shops?? Go buy from Currys they operate on a charitable basis. Tescos dont make profits either. And now blatent rules flaunting. This is an ugly thread. Seconds out ......

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FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

I'm sorry for drawing more attention to the rule breakingly blatant self promotion going on (:)) - but your frequency response doesn't look particularly flat. Was that in room or anechoic?

 

Blatant self promotion, what about the company you work for?

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JonAlacrityA wrote:

FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

I'm sorry for drawing more attention to the rule breakingly blatant self promotion going on (:)) - but your frequency response doesn't look particularly flat. Was that in room or anechoic?

Hey, this thread asked for all-comers with any suggestions. I'm just following forum policy.

The measurements are in-room with an XTZ Pro II system. U can see three clear room nodes in the bass, but look how controlled and extended-without-humping the bass actually is... into subsonic.

J+AAt

 

Jon, what make of tweeters and woofers do you use, and what sizes are they?

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