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Avi sub. Now reunited with ADM9RS...short bundle of thoughts

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RE: Avi sub. Now reunited with ADM9RS...short bundle of thoughts

Bit of a non sequitur there, if I might say...

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relocated wrote:

And some on this forum are debating why the forum is no longer up to much.  You spiny, oldric and many many more are why this forum, sadly, is going from bad to worse.  You and your cohorts spew out the same bile at every opportunity and people are obviously fed up to the back teeth with it.

The trouble for you all, is that the AVI system just works.  It produces a disproportionately excellent sound for the money and [often thanks to your cohort] more and more people on here have found out the truth and now happily live with their AVI products.  

If you and yours could just grow up a little, even possibly experience the things you all so readily criticise, then the forum would be a significantly better place.  If I were a company spending good money to advertise here, then the pathetic antics of so many of you would ensure my money moved elsewhere.

AVI have created domestically acceptable, superb sounding, excellent VFM products.  Get over it.

this is a very funny post Smile so I take it your solution to cure forum's ills is to audition AVI speakers?! if you and your ilk are indication what happens to people after experiencing AVI products then I think I'll pass.

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RE: Avi sub. Now reunited with ADM9RS...short bundle of thoughts

Phileas wrote:

oldric_naubhoff wrote:

Phileas wrote:

oldric_naubhoff wrote:

Phileas wrote:

oldric_naubhoff wrote:
what's not to like about DSP contolled speakers?

Dont digital filters have their own problems?

like what? if you know of any why don't you share your wisdom?

It's not my wisdom, just stuff freely available on the web. I assumed you would know about these things but I guess appearances can be deceptive. 

Phileas, you're so lame. I don't know why I even bother to reply. show me a proof of your statement if you can. I can easily show you white papers backing up my statements; hint - IIR vs. FIR powered with ARM.

So you're an expert on digital filters but unaware of any problems with them?

yeah, I thought so...

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jcbrum wrote:

oldric, I understand the points you are making and I'm familiar with Linkwitz work.

 

There really isn't any need for so much sarcasm in your remark.  It has sufficient merit as an argument not to need it. In fact such sarcasm suggests an over defensive attitude on your part, perhaps brought about by concealed insecurity.

 

Linkwitz's approach, and solutions, are indeed somewhat different to Martin Grindrod's work.  I don't consider them to be better, or more domestically acceptable, even given the differering environments.

 

I personally do not accept that a 4-way driver system, complete with all the necessary complex crossovers and electronics does do a better job, and cost can be a consideration too.

 

The AVI products are relatively simple, long lived, and affordable, yet comprise everything necessary except the source.  They employ very sophisticated drive units, and  produce truly excellent sound quality. 

 

JC

I was only trying to convey what I already found out from other designers, that 3-way is already pushing comort area of operation of drivers used to its limits therefore splitting the full range signal even more is not a bad idea since it's already well splitted. if the speaker is actively driven then aligning the drivers output shouldn't be a problem, as you know. as an added bonus in case of Linkwitz's 4-way design and Don Keele's 5-way design (another good example from a respected designer) you get a speaker that exhibits constant beamwidth dispertion. and that helps to conceal the speaker in the room.

and you're trying to convince me that AVI has sourced some 6.5' driver that for some reason is immune from breakup modes in the midrange and excessive THD in the bass? all the ill things that plague every other small speaker on this planet don't apply to AVI bookshelf speakers?

so now you should know what's causing my sarcasm. it's not any alleged conseled insecurity but your and others conviction of superiority of AVIs design Smile

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RE: Avi sub. Now reunited with ADM9RS...short bundle of thoughts

So what are the drawbacks with digital filters?

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relocated wrote:
You and your cohorts

I have no cohorts: unlike some, I am not part of a quasi-religious lobbying group.

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spew out the same bile

= 'disagree with me'

relocated wrote:
and people are obviously fed up to the back teeth with it.

Whereas they love the continual spamming promotion of an insignificant little company.

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The trouble for you all, is that the AVI system just works.

But only just, and IYNSHO, of course.

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It produces a disproportionately excellent sound for the money

I'd agree it produces a disproportionate amount of sound and fury, but fear that signifies nothing.

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more and more people on here have found out the truth

The truth? That's a bit religious, isn't it?

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If I were a company spending good money to advertise here

And if you were a company not spending any money but still advertising here?

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RE: Avi sub. Now reunited with ADM9RS...short bundle of thoughts

Maybe we should ask AVI (the manufacturers) for definitive answers to the questions being raised by forum members ?

 

Or is this forum not capable of doing such a sensible thing ?

 

Why does a small faction of irrational AVI-haters hold sway over this forum ?

 

Is it a moderation issue that should be brought to the attention of Haymarket ?

 

JC

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RE: Avi sub. Now reunited with ADM9RS...short bundle of thoughts

jcbrum wrote:

Is it a moderation issue that should be brought to the attention of Haymarket ?

 

JC

Maybe. I'll ask the MD at school on Monday.

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