Now, about the marketing, is he going to do the unthinkable, spend some money and advertise plus put the speakers out for review? You avoided answering, if you remember.
Why not ask him yourself or get JD to invite AVI to post here, and answer your questions. The DM5s are on demo at the works if you would care to visit, and enjoy their hospitality.
I think inviting AJ to proselytise here would be a backwards move IMHO - especially given his publicly stated thoughts of JD, and also the membership here generally.
I'd also have to comment that from my own personal interaction with AJ on his forums, that it can be very difficult to separate fact from biased opinion, and speculation and assumption presented as fact.
Others of course, may have better luck in discourse with him.
You must think people here are really dumb, JCB.
I'll happily visit once you/your mate has repealed my ban, re-instated all my posts, allowed freedom of speech for all on his forum, stopped the vendetta against WHF, and outlawed shilling as the only means to promote his products. He could also stop reading "The Daily Mail", but in the interests of fairness I'll make that optional...
But then his own forum and the Great Man himself not only 'outed' me (entirely erroneously) as the named proprietor of a hi-fi retailer, but also suggested that the named individual 'might be [a] mild sociopath/psychopath'.
How do I know? Based on the accusations earlier today, and acting on a hunch, Google found it for me quite easily:
Just goes to show that as Mr Duncan has said, you shouldn't believe all you read. Or try and understand how some people get away with it.
'And so on February 22nd 1966, at Luton airport...'
As I understood it, built to order meant that the two man factory waited until enough orders came in, before ordering the parts to assemble and package a run of ADM40's in their factory, not that speakers were built on an item by item basis, per individual order.
I'm also lead to believe that this sort of 'built to order' malarky, was the basis for cirumnavigating distance selling rules.
Is this the case on both counts? - I'm simply commenting upon what I've read elsewhere...and believe to be the facts.
I could be wrong of course, and look forward to your comments.
You are wrong, on both counts. It's just not your day today.
Hi Jmac, I heard some Beo 9 's a week or two ago and really enjoyed them. Interestingly , not so much for the sound but for the whole process and especially the quality.
It was a rushed listen in the shop but I immediately felt comfortable and once settled in I loved the way they sounded... and looked.
I have agreed to go back when I have more time , but have really had my eyes opened regarding B and O......so thanks for that at least.
Oh right, so if somebody buys a pair then tries them out for seven days but decides against buying them, they can return them to AVI for a refund, minus return postage costs. Is that right?
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AVI Laboratory Series CD Player
Don't hold your breath, lemon. I doubt any of that is likely, but you should ask Ashley (nicely), and see what he says.
Dunno , try it
Fair enough, but at least it's encouraging to see you recognise the site for what it is and you're not a blinkered yes-man. Welcome to the fold.
No need JC, but you said to JB that he was wrong on both counts, one of which related to the DSRs. Just assumed if you knew that much, you'd know the rest.
Good on you for going and have a listen.
It can be difficult, in that most B&O emporiums have the lab 5's set up in a dedicated HT room, and the rest of the speakers scattered around like furniture, so not always easy to hear something setup the way a HiFi afficianado would perhaps prefer.
In the end, I made a personal appointment, after hours, with the speakers properly setup with an example of my existing TV/preamp/DAC/Centre channel, a V1-40 TV, and had a comprehensive listen for around 3 hours to my favourite music and movie clips.
From there a very confident buying decision was made.
But as I say, they won't be too everyones taste, depending upon what people are looking for, but for natural sound, as in the closest approach to the original sound, I feel you'd be hard pressed to do better, without jumping to the flagship Beolab 5, or spending a lot more money again, on something else.
And yes, it is a total ownership package that takes into account sound, quality, aesthetics, ease of use, system integration, customer service, backup and spare parts availablity over many years.
Given the cost, that was a very important consideration for me, as well as the sound, and in total for me at least, represented actual relative value for money compared to the high end audiophile scene.
I'll be interested to hear how you get on, and what other directions you may feel suit you better, if you feel lead in that direction, plus as I say, if you've any questions I may be able to assist you with, please feel free to ask.
AFAIK, the built to order requirement, was instigated to avoid un-necessary capital costs of stocking finished goods. AVI have a very tight control of their costs, which is the main reason their products are such good value for money. All the value goes into the product.
I don't believe that to be the case in the now discontinued ADM40's, certainly from what I've read online.
I wonder what one will do in a year or two, re the now discontinued ADM40's when the drivers have become unavailable/superseded, and if one has an 'accident' say at a party through over driving, and a driver fails or is damaged beyond repair.
Caveat emptor I would say - they're great VFM, as long as you're happy and everything holds up over the years.
Which is fair enough - they're a lot cheaper than anything that could compare re performance, and at the end of the day, one usually gets what one pays for.
p.s. In addition, RS, I know from running my own businesses that 'build to order only' has a very beneficial impact on the cost and value of 'work in progress' which is an important factor on any balance sheet, and has an impact on taxation too. - JC.
I'm still trying to find these disparaging comments. The ones I've seen seem somewhat harmless.
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