As the Nait 5i, but more detailed

Good question TBH. This could be a case of too much detail could kill the overall presentation. From what I've heard about the EBs and a very short listening with the Audiolab CDP, yes they are very detailed. The issue comes when you start adding to the detail side: Sometimes additional detail can make it sound brittle, hence why mix 'n' matching is vitally important you strike the right balance.

If you like the combo but hanker after more detail it maybe worth holding back a while. Changing the amp may change the overall feel and you'll lose the lovely sound currently.

What cables do you use with your set-up?

Edit - The obvious choice for an amp is the Naim XS. I personally think it has all the traits you're looking for, and it's on par with my Leema Pulse. Alternatively, look at Roksan Kandy K2 and Creek Evo2.

Hate to ruin your budget. But the answer is an easy one: Naim XS

I suspected it. How detailed is the XS? Not as much as the Cyrus 8xp, according to the review of WHF, but more than a Marantz?

Thanks!

Thanks for your advice. I use chord cables, but I do not think they affect much in the detail.

You are right: with Cyrus the combo was very detailed, but wheezing and too bright for me. She caused me a headache!

Do you think than Roksan, Creek and Leema have the same sound funny, warm and punchy than Naim?

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The Kandy and Creek won't out punch the Nait 5i but the Leema will. The Kandy and the Creek have a nice full-bodied or warmish presentation, and will outgun the Nait (not by much) in detail, although it'll be more subtle. The Pulse, on the other hand, is the best integrated amp I've heard below the 2k mark... and it has incredible punch. Don't mistake that with bass depth. It has deep, taut bass and in isolation nothing else will do. It's only when you hear the Caspian or XS side-by-side with the Leema that the Welsh beauty ever-so-slightly lacks. Overall, though, the Leema improves on the Nait 5i in pretty much every area. Albeit very noticable it isn't 'night and day'. Although not warm the Leema does have a lovely organic tonal balance.

Thanks for your reply. My concern is that the final sound, combined with the 8200cd and the EB2, can not be too hurtful at high frequencies.

Well, the Leema has wonderful control over my RS6s treble, which can become slightly shrill with the wrong amp. When I heard the Leema/Audiolab 8200 and RS6s at a dealers last year, it sounded 'alive' but... the problem I have is I like a slightly laid back presentation, hence why my sources tend to have these traits.

Could also look at cables. There are a few on here who are really impressed by Tellurium Q black, describing it as far more detailed than most other cables. However, it comes at a price: About £40 per metre. Or alternatively, look at the TQ Blue, which are cheaper.

I'm currently using Chord SilverScreen speaker cable and Merlin Chopin interconnects (CD to amp), and the Merlins are open and transparent. Fabulous for a sub £100 i/c.

Exposure 3010 would be well worth a try. lots of PRaT and also detailed.

IMO a little step up from the Nait and more on par with the XS range.

you could also check out my amp; Classic One mkIII, entry level form Pathos.

never heard your CDP nor your speakers. however, my set up sound like something you described you want to get; detailed and fast but fluid, musical and non fatiguing.

mind you, what you're trying to get is probably the most difficult thing to get in hi-fi, at least at budget level; the high level of musical detail true hi-fi is capable of achieving but no associated head ache . good luck on your endeavour.

Yes, I think I I'm looking for the Holy Grail of sound: warm, very detailed, with PRAT and without fatigue. 

The problem is that these speakers are not in stores, and it is impossible to hear the final result before buying. 

For now, I will take de Naim sound. Later, If I find one of the these amplifiers (Leema, XS, Roksan, Exposure) a good price, I will venture.

Wise decision to stay with a combo you like, even if it isn't utopia. The old saying, "if it ain't broke..." rings so true with hi-fi.

I was only saying that you could try out my amp if you get a chance, not the whole set up.

but you're right. Focus110s are now discontinued. but I'm using Magnepan MG12s ATM. and I think they are vasly superior speakers. since when Maggies arrived (beginning of Jan) I haven't changed them for Dyns. I think it's about time for me to change the bio....

Spoken from disappointed experience, nothing from Cyrus that I have owned worked with the EB 2's.
This was echoed by EB Acoustics who were "left feeling cold" by their experience of the EB/Cyrus combo.

8VS2
X Power
Mono X's

None of the above worked and all sounded very bright and lightweight.
Steer clear of that combo. (although I haven't tried my current weapon of choice, Mono X300's).

Similar to the above posts, and might be a tad biased... but I'd recommend the Nait XS highly. It seems to have everything that you're looking for, however I don't know how it compares to the other amps that the guys on here have suggested.

I started with the Nait 5i and upgraded to the XS, it just seemed like a natural progression as I enjoyed the sound of the Nait 5i so much.

If you are after a warmth without detail loss I recommend Accuphase E-250 and Luxman L-505u. They are expensive but they worth every penny and are far better than Naim XS. The L-505u is punchier and cheaper.