The OP has only a £1,000 budget.
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If you are after a warmth without detail loss I recommend Accuphase E-250 and Luxman L-505u. They are expensive but they worth every penny and are far better than Naim XS. The L-505u is punchier and cheaper.
Hue It not so shore about that demoed the E-250 it couldn't convince me an it realy expensive....An my preference went to the Musical fidelity M6i
On the other hand when I demoed the niam xs I choosed the M6i but that choice took more reflection an time an it was a much harder choice.... because The Naime heve some particular sound who is realy easy to listen to an to enjoy.
But than its subjective an it depend what your afther
Anyway the xs would still be my secound choice afther the demo's I did an not the E-250
But hey enjoy the music.....
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I totally agree with you. I tested with Cyrus because that was the midrage system proposed by WHF, but for my taste was very bright and anemic, unexciting.
I'm looking to make the best of the EB2 requieres very fine adjustments: they need to punch and energy, great warmth and at the same time, an amplifier that respects the transparency of the speakers.
It would be nice to know which systems have the EB2's users and what results have been obtained.
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detailed, warm, and lots of Prat!
Try the matching Naim CD5i CD player with your Nait 5i.
It's within budget. Naim amps and their own matching sources really do have a lot of synergy. (I speak from the experience of owning and enjoying a Nait 5i/CD5i/NAT05/nSATs system for two years).
Extend the 'matching' right down to using the Naim supplied 5 pin DIN interconnect that comes in the CD5i box and you might be pleasantly suprised.
(Just an alternative to getting rid of an amp that - from your first comments - you obviously really enjoy.)
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I second the Exposure 3010s2, it is nor far behind the Naim XS and in some areas even better (bass control), you can also easily upgrade the amp by adding the 3010s2 power amp and bi-amp your speakers.
Caspian is a warm smooth amp, but it is a bit slow I think, exposure has more pace.
Try the it with the budget Chord Cobra plus interlink it is very good for the money.
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Having a Leema Pulse, there's no amp around the sub-£1500 sector that has comparible PRaT, the possible exception being the Cyrus IMPO.
I would tend to agree with Chebby in that a change of CD player rather than an amp change may be what is required here.
If you are determined to replace the amp then the XS or Roksan Caspian (forget the Kandy) would be the options that I would look into.
I have EB2's but have never heard them with any Audiolab equipment so could not offer any advice in this particular pairing.
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Thanks for the advices. At the moment I cannot do tests because I am waiting to replace my Eb Acoustics Eb2. However, the models that attract me most are the Roksan, the Leema and the Nait XS. I've tried with Cyrus 6xp and in my opinion has nothing to do with the Nait 5i. With the EB2 had not PRAT at all, but a lot of detail.
Having heard the Naim XS, Caspian M1 and Leema Pulse, I obviously chose the Leema: After nearly two years of faffing, looking at most sub-£1000 integrateds, non of which gave me a big enough upgrade in sound or features - only the Creek Evo2 achieved this but lacked the feature count.
Long before the heavy discount I heard the Pulse in isolation at a dealers... and blown away.
After a bit more faffing the price was dropped, and compared it with the Caspian with my RS6s and various other speakers, there was little difference in SQ. The Pulse had the edge for fast, taut bass and imaging, while the Caspian had a bead on Detail, bass depth and perhaps microdynamics. TBH, all-in-all, there was only a fag paper width between them. Likewise the XS has its own distinct qualities, but for me, the Leema has a slightly sweeter tonal quality.
In addition to the vast inputs of the Leema, it has two built-in phono stages for turntables and as a whole package there's little to compare: the amp has ferocious attack allied to a lovely (cosy) sonic undertone. The dynamics are spot-on, as is the imaging and detail retrieval. The biggest fault I can really find, if I was really picky, it could do with an extra dose of bass depth. However, in isolation it's irrelevent.
You also might want to consider the Musical Fidelity M3i.
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I've always thought that Exposure sounded better than Naim precisely for detail and punch.
I was looking to buy the 8200cd after hearing an initial demo and was blown away by the detail and compared with many cd players at that price couldn't find anything to match it.
However once I started listening to it next to other players I found the harsh nature of the detail retrieval making the music I was listening to not sound right, I paired with the Kandy K2, Leema Pulse, Naim 5i, Exposure 3010s and the Naim xs, none of them sounded right.
When I heard the Naim 5i amp and cd I thought that was a great pairing and found it a delight to listen to and I realised that there was a price to pay for all the detail that the audiolab 8200cd provides and at that price point you can get the detail but have to sacrifice maybe some of the musicality.
I would try and demo with the Naim 5i cd player and see what you think, it was suggested earlier here,in my listening experience I tried many amps all very good to get the 8200 cd to work and I realised I was getting things the wrong way around.
Maybe you have to decide which aspect of your music is more important detail or warmth, we all want both I guess but we all have budgets too.
Just my personal experience and I hope you find what you are looking for,
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