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RE: are my ears deceiving me ?

:cheer: my post was just to say that i dont feel im missing out on anything now ive gone from an expensive system to a tiny micro cos it really is that good :cheer:

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TrevC wrote:

When push comes to shove I doubt whether anyone can hear the differences between good amps. Speaker differences are huge however.

Maybe if you try using what I deem to be high quality cabling, you would be able to hear the differences more clearly  Wink

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cables are fine mate i can hear enough;)

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What do you expect from;

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c) Old recording technology?

 

Actually I've got LPs mastered on old recorders like the Ampex 300 and the EMI BTR/2 which are more 'hifi' than a lot of the junk turned out today. The technology to record high-quality masters has been around for well-over half a century.

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MajorFubar wrote:

whiskywheels wrote:

What do you expect from;

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c) Old recording technology?

 

Actually I've got LPs mastered on old recorders like the Ampex 300 and the EMI BTR/2 which are more 'hifi' than a lot of the junk turned out today. The technology to record high-quality masters has been around for well-over half a century.

 

Thats true, some of the late 50s and early 60s jazz albums put most of the last 10 years releases to shame. Check out Dave Brubeck, Sonny Rollins and Miles Davis for a start.

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Thnaks guys i agree ive read many times that re issued lp releases arent a patch on the originals which made that other guys comment quite amusing...plus as we know you cant beat lp for sound if its done right

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:cheer: my post was just to say that i dont feel im missing out on anything now ive gone from an expensive system to a tiny micro cos it really is that good :cheer:

Nice to hear. Sometimes it's worthwhile trying different kit/components, and it proves you don't have to spend shed-loads to get the right sound.

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chebby wrote:

Of course people will tell you the 'superior' system must have been wrongly matched, or was played in the wrong room, or had the wrong cables or... whatever etc.

The point I was making not that the Marantz can't compete, but if you go into a dealer on a ad hoc basis and hear a system, you've nothing to compare it with.

It's like years ago, when I purchased the A65+, the dealer had a 10k all- Bryston set-up with PMC OB1s (I think). I wasn't blown away by any stretch, considering the cost. Once I set-up the Arcams (Alpha 7, alongside Nad 352, Rotel RA-02 and A65) the difference was 'poke in the eye' different. From the short time I spent with the 603 it was very good for the money... but had nothing to compare with (and no, I just popped in there while Mrs. P did her own shopping, and the combo was already playing).

 

That Arcan A65+ was one of the best amps I ever heard I remember auditioning one back late 90's (my 1st venture into hifi) with a pair of Eltax liberty 5 (floorstanders) and Marantz cd player, stunning sound huge 3dness and stage - was put off when it started clipping/cutting out when the dealer turned it up a bit ....almost my 1st proper amp.

The A65 was released in 2002 and as it was less than satifactory Arcam brought out the + version in 2003. Over the 7 years I had my A65+ it never clipped once connected to the RS6s, although once you hit 10-11 o'clock it did start to lose control. This is pretty understandable for a 40 watt £370 amp. Still a fabulous amp for the money. If I had to sell the Leema and wanted to revert to a cheaper option the A65+ would be on the list.

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I can see the attraction of a low cost sytem, just get on and play the music. I think that the more you spend the more you worry about problems in your expensive system and the more you listen to the system rather than the music. Plenty posts on here about problems in expensive systems, on a cheap system you would not worry about them or even notice them.

 

When I demo new systems I did not find many of them better than my old system, this could be down to the demo room and me being used to my sound. Your experience could be partly down to expectation basis, where you expect the system to be so much better. Also if you played your system alongside it may sound no so great. Re the LS50s I found I had to turn the volume quite a bit to get them going, so maybe you played at a lowish volume?

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youre right bh thats what happened in my last system which was very expensive and i was forever finding faults because i paid so much for it ..yiu dont always have to spend a fortune

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if i ever do go back to separates it will be something small and simple .....maybe a rega brio r and matching cd and tt 

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whiskywheels wrote:

What do you expect from;

a) The Beatles?

b) A piece of music with limited dynamic range and tone?

c) Old recording technology?

I've not heard Come Together on CD. I have Abbey Road on vinyl. It's a well recorded piece of music. Good clarity, good dynamic range with slightly odd dual mono soundstaging. I'd say it's at least as good a recording as 75% of the modern stuff I've got. Certainly good enough to use as a test track.

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Smile

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youre right bh thats what happened in my last system which was very expensive and i was forever finding faults because i paid so much for it ..yiu dont always have to spend a fortune

you don't have to spend a fortune to enjoy music ....... So true

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Thans lind youre so right about that track and the beatles abby road albu on vinyl ,,i have a reissued copy on 180 gram but ive read it wldt compare to the original copy

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audioaddict wrote:

Thans lind youre so right about that track and the beatles abby road albu on vinyl ,,i have a reissued copy on 180 gram but ive read it wldt compare to the original copy

I've got original copy, 1980's reissue on vinyl and the apple USB all very good.

Fantastic album

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