Im thoroughly chuffed with it, brand new in the box, black, guess what I paid? ......... £600 inc. some Chord Company Crimson.
One thing I have noticed even at 105w per channel, that NAD had a hell of lot of weight behind its bass compared to this Arcam arrangement. This is very soft and not intrusive in the slightest, but still very clear and punchy nonetheless. The NAD sonically was poor, but my god it could chuck out bass, controlled too and not flabby.
I think my ears have grown accustom to the Arcam sound over the years, using the A65+ as a pre-amp made perfect sense when the guy in the shop suggested it, and at that price I couldnt refuse. I think he even made a loss but he just wanted to get rid of it!
The only advantage of NAD is its huge bass I considered to buy the 375BEE it was an aggressive amp no details at all , sound stage was very poor only bass and bass and bass...
For good quality sound I will look at other places .
Hi Fi : Proac Studio 140MK2 - Rotel RC1580 [PRE] - Rotel RB1582 [POWER] -Rotel RCD1520 [CDP] Headphones : B&W P7 . Cables : Tellurium Q Black speaker cables-Tellurium Q Ultra Black RCA interconnects-WireWorld Stratus 7 power cords
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Nad produce decent amps: They have good treble and detail but the bass just unbalances the whole presentation IMO.
Amp: Leema Pulse; Source: Naim CD5i-2, Denon 260MKII, Pro-ject XP I; Speakers: PMC TB2i
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Well, the shop where I took my speakers to be repaired is a bit of a gem. Ive known of it for years, but until now ive never been able to afford anything in there! I rang him as I was having rouble tracking down a new tweeter for my faulty 602, he said he could get one in and fit it for me. When I walked in the first thing that presented itself was an 802 Diamond in all black then next to that were more 800 series in a range of different colours. he's got pretty much the entire B&W range, the entire Naim arsenal, plus Arcam/Quad and lots of more obscure brands ive never heard of.
As soon as I mentioned what amplfier I had he just cut me short and said swiftly "I dont sell NAD", with a funny look on his face. I told him about the A65+ it replaced and he (admittedly, he is a salesman) quipped "Ive got a new in box P38 in the back that I wont be able to sell now?" Whilst not perfect for most its ideal for my situation, I feel like ive got a genuine one in a million bargain here!
So im about 5 hours into listening to the whole setup now, the DAC is marvellous as is this new amp. Even my ageing B&W's (complete with 1 new tweeter) sound like they've been given a fresh lease of life. I cant describe how good this whole system sounds (to me anyway) and im very fussy, my ears dont feel tortured like they did with the NAD and the midrange is superbly detailed. As mentioned before, even with an extra 25w the bass doesnt feel quite as weighty as the NAD, but I prefer clarity over neighbour/wildlife bothering bass levels.
Ive managed to engage the cutout once or twice when testing its limits, im guessing thats the amp stopping the speakers from blowing? I could get the NAD to go louder strangely..
Macbook Pro/rWAVE --> Arcam rDAC wireless --> Atlas Equator Mkiii --> Naim NAC152/NAP155 XS --> NAC A5 speaker cable --> Rega RS5
I've found Arcam very hard to beat, and I've heard an awful lot of sub-£1000 integrateds over recent years.
There are some amp that impress immediately or as I call them: "Instant impact" amps: Cyrus, Naim, Nad. But if like me, I want a combo that has lasting appeal - easy listening without sacrificing excitement and the essence of the music...
Not moved from this spot.. still listening haha :)
Got radio 1 streaming and loving every minute, one happy customer.
Making me feel like a A65+ reprise...
The A65+ is the better than any of the equivalent Arcam amps that have come since. Enjoy.
Regarding the comments about NAD, yes their amps can sound a little bass heavy but it all comes down to how you partner them and set them up. My system sounds beautifully balanced. I couldn't live with over-the-top bass but I don't have that problem. Partnered with the Dali speakers the bass is perfectly in proportion and there is loads of detail, openess and control throughout the frequency range. One thing I would say is that changing the supplied steel links between the pre and power sections with proper jumper leads makes a significant difference.
Sources: Rega RP3/Elys 2 - Roksan Kandy K2 CDS Phono Stage Cambridge Audio 540P
Amplification: Exposure 1010
Speakers: Dynaudio DM2/6
Listening to MUSIC!
i know where your coming from i hate bright anything but bright.over the years i have spent thousands avoiding bright sound.but dac,s like all hifi equipment take 30 odd hours to burn it and the sound will go deeper good luck
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Just a quick update on this, I started using it with the wireless dongle today and it has made one heck of a difference. The USB cable I was using was a cheap affair that came with my Traktor MIDI deck, im not too far into listening but I immediately noticed a huge difference in clarity and soundstage. how does this wizardry work!?
it does not.
it either works or does not. or every computer user would be having issues.
Not a HiFi Nut. Just has a pile of Nads.
Which part of my post are you bringing into question? I was just saying that it sounds better with the dongle and not a cheap USB cable
Another update, heading down to the shop tomorrow to demo an A38/P38 combo and a range of different speakers ranging from Rega to B&W. A65+ will be donated to my dad as he loves hifi.
Just bought some Rega RS5's I tested them against a set of CM8's.
I was surprised at how poor the B&W's sounded in comparison to the Rega's, coupled with how cheap they look i was immediately sold on the Rega's. I tried some RS3's also but in the end the RS5's won as they were superbly musical in every way. I gave the B&W's a 2nd listen and it reaffirmed my decision, I actually found it hard work listening to them.
Equipment used to test was Arcam A38, rDAC wireless, my Macbook Pro, Chord Crimson Plus.
Disappointed to move away from B&W after 10 years or som but i genuinely believe my 602 S2's sounded better than those CM8's.
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