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Get your ears syrynged!

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this is my reply from some other guy(unfortunately)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCKUlaDoeiI

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Does that mean that my thoughts of buying a Solo Mini isn't a good idea then?

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No, it's emphatically not rubbish, although opinions of its merits will vary. Ridiculous thread.

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Andrew Everard wrote:

No, it's emphatically not rubbish, although opinions of its merits will vary. Ridiculous thread.

Clearly you haven't fathomed the reason. Not a ridiculous thread, just... well work it out.

Hint: http://www.whathifi.com/forum/off-topic-and-miscellaneous/forum-folk-who...

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Does that mean that my thoughts of buying a Solo Mini isn't a good idea then?

No, if it's like the Arcams I've owned it should do the trick nicely.

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Not really sure I get the point of this thread, but that's never stopped me posting before.

I can understand the sound might not be to some people's liking, but I like it. It gets a little annoying when people seem to have a set anti-Arcam (or any brand) bias and just express it as Arcam is rubbish rather than explaining that they don't like the sound and why.

Some of the QA issues surrounding their home cinema products is a little worrying, and I'd be worried about the damage reliability issues are doing the brand. I get the feeling that development went on so long that it reached a point where due to building costs and delays in entering the market they felt they had to release it anyway. Either way, this is pure conjecture, and maybe it passed all their QA procedures...

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Sizzers wrote:
Does that mean that my thoughts of buying a Solo Mini isn't a good idea then?

No, if it's like the Arcams I've owned it should do the trick nicely.

Only my dry humour PP!

Had a bit of a listen to one which was on display in whatever shop I was passing when I was in London early last year, and I was well impressed to be honest. No idea what speakers it was running mind, and never bothered with a proper audition afterwards as no way could I afford it at the time. However, I'm getting the itch for a one box solution to tuck away in my bedroom to replace what I have already.

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ID. wrote:

Not really sure I get the point of this thread, but that's never stopped me posting before.

I can understand the sound might not be to some people's liking, but I like it. It gets a little annoying when people seem to have a set anti-Arcam (or any brand) bias and just express it as Arcam is rubbish rather than explaining that they don't like the sound and why.

Some of the QA issues surrounding their home cinema products is a little worrying, and I'd be worried about the damage reliability issues are doing the brand. I get the feeling that development went on so long that it reached a point where due to building costs and delays in entering the market they felt they had to release it anyway. Either way, this is pure conjecture, and maybe it passed all their QA procedures...

You've been on this forum long enough to know my feelings about Arcam. Just look at my sig - there's a clue.

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Sorry PP, I know you are an Arcam fan. I'm a fan even though I haven't owned any since my beloved Alpha 9 amp. My comments were just about some attitudes that pop up on the forum and trying to give my objective opinions on the brand and products.

As for the point of the thread, I wasn't sure whether you were just trying to get some debate and an interesting thread going due to comments about lack of activity, etc. in the thread you referenced, or whether you had become frustrated by a number of anti-Arcam threads or comments

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Sizzers wrote:
Does that mean that my thoughts of buying a Solo Mini isn't a good idea then?

I have one and it's great, but only if you'll be mainly be playing CDs. I have the rDock but it's at the mercy of the iPod i.e. Touch yes, Classic no no. Its USB is next to useless though - sounds great but usability is rubbish. Tuner is great.

So in a nutshell, if you're spinning lots of CDs go for it. If not look at Marantz.

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ID. wrote:

Sorry PP, I know you are an Arcam fan. I'm a fan even though I haven't owned any since my beloved Alpha 9 amp. My comments were just about some attitudes that pop up on the forum and trying to give my objective opinions on the brand and products.

As for the point of the thread, I wasn't sure whether you were just trying to get some debate and an interesting thread going due to comments about lack of activity, etc. in the thread you referenced, or whether you had become frustrated by a number of anti-Arcam threads or comments

Purely to get some dialogue goin', as I'm fairly qualified to talk about the brand, and it makes a change some of the dull stuff we read. It's partially worked already - one or two replies from members who haven't been on for a while.

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I've had mixed experiences with Arcam, but ultimately I think they are a great manufacturer with the ability to make some really good kit.

I've owned quite a bit of entry level Arcam product.  Of that product the A65+ and CD73T were very enjoyable, the A70 was a bit of a wet lettuce and didn't last long, the CD17 was excellent, and the A18 had so much potential but wasn't that great at driving anything but fairly easy loads so lacked in flexibility.  I've also had an Alpha 8 amp which I thought was superb.

However, this is all entry-level Arcam kit and I firmly believe the brand comes on song once you get further up the food chain.  I have head an A38, and CD37 with Focus 806v speakers and it was incredible - open, involving, dynamic, musical....  You get the picture.

No brand is consistently great and to slag the whole of Arcam's output off based on a handful of their products is a little unfair.

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plastic penguin wrote:

You've been on this forum long enough to know my feelings about Arcam. Just look at my sig - there's a clue.

I've been on longer and didn't know.

 

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Gusboll wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

You've been on this forum long enough to know my feelings about Arcam. Just look at my sig - there's a clue.

I've been on longer and didn't know.

 

As Arcam fanboys PP and I have exchanged the Arcam fans' secret handshake Wink

As a Cyrus owner you wouldn't be privy to that kind of knowledge

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