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RE: Arcam FMJ A19

 i was really surprised with the review. I auditioned the A19 a few weeks ago, and immediately thought it was a very light sound, fairly cold, crisp yes, but way to light, lacking in any sense of authority. Maybe it was because of driving my dynaudios. Or maybe it was because the amp was literally straight out of the box...one hour run in. I only listened to it for 5 mins before i had decided it was not for me. the Brio r and the Audiolad 8200 and Quad elite were all much better. After reading the review though, i am tempted to ask dealer to run it in for a couple of days, and then i might reaudition, but i think my dyns just arent matched for it (going by the WHF review).

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Arcam FMJ A19

Have to say I've never been impressed with Arcam/Dynaudio combination. Although not heard the A19, older Arcams were dreadful with Dyns. For some reason they just don't work together.

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RE: Arcam FMJ A19

Walkzinho wrote:
B&W moved production to China and their speakers don't sound half as good as they used to. Just saying.

Only some of the production. And drivers are still made in the UK and shipped out to the assembly plant in China for those speakers made there.

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RE: Arcam FMJ A19

plastic penguin wrote:

Have to say I've never been impressed with Arcam/Dynaudio combination. Although not heard the A19, older Arcams were dreadful with Dyns. For some reason they just don't work together.

PP, you don't half make some sweeping statements Smile How can you justify saying Arcam and Dynaudio 'just don't work together' and that 'older Arcams were dreadful with Dyns'? 'Older Arcams', what, all of them?!

Maybe you don't like the result of that pairing, fair enough, but a quick Google leads me to plenty of other people who are happy with the combination. And the review which most people seem to use when listing A85s on ebay goes on about how well that amp worked with a pair of Contour 1.3s, despite their Current requirements.

Sorry if this seems a bit grumpy, it's not meant to be, but I think those sorts of comments could be a bit misleading to newbies who might take that opinion as gospel. There's a lot of stuff passed about as fact, but it's often just based on 'I read it on the net so it must be true, I'll pass it on'. In another thread someone advised a poster to get a P85 over a P90, presumably because the A85 received better reviews than the A90. But the P85 and P90 were the same thing according to Arcam.

I quite fancy a change, so I'm wondering if technology has moved on enough to make it worth changing my A85/CD192 for an A19 and Arcam DAC.

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RE: Arcam FMJ A19

bigblue235 wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

Have to say I've never been impressed with Arcam/Dynaudio combination. Although not heard the A19, older Arcams were dreadful with Dyns. For some reason they just don't work together.

PP, you don't half make some sweeping statements Smile How can you justify saying Arcam and Dynaudio 'just don't work together' and that 'older Arcams were dreadful with Dyns'? 'Older Arcams', what, all of them?!

Maybe you don't like the result of that pairing, fair enough, but a quick Google leads me to plenty of other people who are happy with the combination. And the review which most people seem to use when listing A85s on ebay goes on about how well that amp worked with a pair of Contour 1.3s, despite their Current requirements.

Sorry if this seems a bit grumpy, it's not meant to be, but I think those sorts of comments could be a bit misleading to newbies who might take that opinion as gospel. There's a lot of stuff passed about as fact, but it's often just based on 'I read it on the net so it must be true, I'll pass it on'. In another thread someone advised a poster to get a P85 over a P90, presumably because the A85 received better reviews than the A90. But the P85 and P90 were the same thing according to Arcam.

I quite fancy a change, so I'm wondering if technology has moved on enough to make it worth changing my A85/CD192 for an A19 and Arcam DAC.

Well, I heard the Dyn 52s with Arcam A80 and, to my ears, sounded flat compared to the A80 and Focals. The dealer, Audio-T, put that down to a lack of power, allied to a lack of pure current. Had no evidence to disagree. Unless the new A19 has bigger reserves of power than the older ranges, IMO, there could be better matches.

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RE: Arcam FMJ A19

plastic penguin wrote:
Well, I heard the Dyn 52s with Arcam A80 and, to my ears, sounded flat compared to the A80 and Focals. The dealer, Audio-T, put that down to a lack of power, allied to a lack of pure current. Had no evidence to disagree. Unless the new A19 has bigger reserves of power than the older ranges, IMO, there could be better matches.

So, by saying 'older Arcams were dreadful with Dyns' you meant "I didn't like the A80 with some Audience 52s"? Smile 

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RE: Arcam FMJ A19

It sounds as if this Arcam amp is a significant improement. As mentioned earlier in the thread it was first tested at a Hi-Fi show with Dynaudio floorstanders and in the WHF review with ATC SCM 50 speakers. It will be interesting to see if the the rest of the range is updated. New Creeks out soon as well so an interesting battle emerging!

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